Honestly, I don’t understand why it wasn’t chosen as a European language
It has the same problem as Lojban - you can only use it to communicate with the sort of people that learn Esperanto.
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Boppel@feddit.org 7 hours agoIt is ridiculously simple. Honestly, I don’t understand why it wasn’t chosen as a European language. We could have had an easy-to-learn, inclusive language that avoids grammatical irregularities. it doesn’t give an advantage to certain nations or disadvantages to others and as an artificial language it doesn’t prefer any culture over another. Just imagine how easy it would be to learn other languages if you already had that foundation. The pronunciation is simple, and even people outside the EU have advocated for it, since it is easy to learn worldwide. I speak German, English, and a little French, Japanese, and Spanish; Esperanto is far easier than any of those languages.
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calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
That’s because it wasn’t chosen as a European language. If it were, more people would learn it.
Oh you’re a french businessman looking to expand into Spain? Sorry, we don’t know french, you’ll have to use one of the official languages to do the paperwork, which includes esperanto.
You would need to pay a spanish-speaking lawyer. Then a German one, then an English one. Or you could pay a single esperanto-speaking one that would be accepted in any European country.
This would incentivize lawyers to learn esperanto. You could do similar things for other fields. Eventually (after a LOT of time), it would just make sense to do daily life in esperanto.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago Because language is cultural and thus doesn’t lend itseld to artificiality. Not that it doesn’t happen but it is unpredictable as to what is adopted and what is left in the dust.
falcunculus@jlai.lu 5 hours ago
Most European languages are some almagation and standardization of a patchwork of dialects. English destroyed scots, Tours french destroyed occitan, hochdeutsch largely displaced bavarian, etc. The reason is the dramatic increase in state power in the 19th century (therefore giving importance to the language of administration), combined with policies of “cultural unification” and nation building. So there in fact very much is artificiality in language that is predictable.
The reason Esperanto wasn’t adopted by states when it was invented is because internationalism was seen as either an utopia or a threat by states. The reason it isn’t adopted by the UE now is because it would be a highly visible and unpopular move that would take decades to bear fruit and therefore politicians will never support it. The entire UE therefore learns english, massively increasing the influence of people who brand themselves its enemies.
- Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
The cultural erasure of the past were monarchy run genocides…
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 7 hours ago as an artificial language it doesn’t prefer any culture over another
as long as it’s European, of course
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Indo-European. That is, 3.4 billion native speakers. And only for the vocabulary and writing system: the grammar is pretty universal.
- rockerface@lemmy.cafe 5 hours ago
Not every Indo-European is going to have a compatible phonetic inventory or vocabulary. It’s specifically very limited to Europe, as is grammar.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
No the grammar will be easily understood to anyone having a language with an accusative morphosyntactic alignment, that is, by far the most widespread one. The phonetic inventory is quite limited, so perfectly learnable for every culture. For the vocabulary I agree, but it’s linked to the most spoken languages of the world, so, not that bad.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
It was a good idea for the time it was created, when Europeans were constantly killing eachother all over the place.
Finally, it was forming the EU that got them to stop. So creating a common language kinda felt unnecessary after that.teslekova@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Do you know if anyone has tried a similar language project that takes the entire globe into account?
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
There were many, many attempts. Most with a European bias tbh, but not all
nialv7@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Had it been chosen as a European language and been adopted by a large population, it would quickly stop being simple.