Comment on Consumers are paying more than ever for streaming TV each month and analysts say there’s no reason for the companies to stop raising prices

Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Torrent:

  -Unless your a millennial with really good memory… requires a (usually) a good paid VPN + 3 hours of reading and setup so you dont get nasty letters from your ISP.

  -Requires requisite ports and knowledge of how to get the shows to your TV

  -ideally requires a standalone PC, which most households no longer have

  -Requires knowledge of additional programs that need to be researched and have paid competition

  -Requires knowledge of how to find the source material, with huge gatekeeping between source pools

  I am probably forgetting other stuff, especially for Gen Z and now the oldest Gen Alpha. But if I as a millennial feel it’s a burden to relearn the steps for something I already was doing a decade or so ago. That must be a massive bar for someone who never had their hand in it, so to speak.

  I am not saying it’s impossible, just I haven’t found a straight forward guide from beginning to end, with all the new technology included. And the first time they get a love note from their ISP, they will likely just stop.

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  • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the age of information. It would take a grand total of a few hours for the average person to watch a video to give them all the knowledge they need to avoid the pitfalls you listed.

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    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      People are afraid and lazy, it’s easy to let fear control your decisions.

      I think the age of information has passed. If you try googling/search engine any of this you get scraps of information that don’t tie well together.

      All I am saying is I could see people throwing up their hands and thinking it’s too confusing or dangerous.

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Information is everywhere, but so is misinformation now. There’s LOTS of AI-generated articles out there telling people nothing helpful, or straight-up incorrect answers from Google searches.

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      • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        We have a Piracy board on Lemmy with a beginner’s guide.

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  • reddit_sux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    • VPN is easy especially the good paid ones.
    • You can use VPN and torrent on your mobile and cast it there are apps for it. Or you can use one of the NAS which will do it for you no need to remember anything.
    • You needn’t use a PC.

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  • Specal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So you are mostly wrong here, I’ll let you know my setup that costs me $15 a month.

    A 4 core 8GB VPS: $5 a month. Unlimited cloud Storage: €10 a month.

    I have Emby (Use jellyfin, I haven’t changed out of laziness), Sonarr, Radarr, Jellyseerr all running on a VPS with caddy running a reverse_proxy to point a domain at emby via HTTPS.

    No need for VPNs, but you can run OpenVPN on your VPS for maximum value for money if you want to use a high speed VPN.

    It’s all very straight forward to setup on Ubuntu 20.04 with lots of documentation. My server has been up for 3 months now and I have had 0 issues, friends use jellyseerr to requests shows and movies. Everything else is automated. Can even import lists from IMDb.

    Make sure if you want to save space to use h.265 encoding where possible. Additionally, if you don’t want to torrent you can use newservers. But that will cost an additional $10 a month.

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    • TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Where are you getting a 4 core 8GB VPS for $5 a month with unlimited bandwidth/CPU time?

      All the reputable providers have 1GB, single core shared compute for that price.

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    • cozycosmic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When you say VPS, do you mean like an AWS or GCP instance?

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      • Specal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ionos, but I have been grandfathered in with price so you won’t be able to get my deal

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      • TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        AWS/GCP is an order of magnitude more expensive for those specs. And they would ban you for downloading copyrighted material without a VPN. So I wouldn’t recommend that. I was able to get a similar set up using Linode but the specs were way worse and I couldn’t do transcoding, and I didn’t torrent using the $5 a month VPS.

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  • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The skill issues related to piracy can and should be addressed. This is how we form a truly strong resistance to the madness that is going on.

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  • joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have never been in a house with out a pc since the 90s.

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    • DeadlineX@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My sister, my mother, and my brother all have laptop-exclusive households. Most people these days don’t see a need for a standalone pc when they have a laptop they can take from room to room and costs the same as a desktop.

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      • Specal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not to be pedantic but a laptop is a PC

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  • ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’re mistakening the wide range of solutions and tooling for complexity.

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  • rolling_resistance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not hard. Mullvad is €5/month. In torrent client, set up Mullvad proxy. Go to thepiratebay or any other tracker to download. Watch.

    You can also do it on your old laptop and use it as a home media server. Android TV can access network shares, I’m sure some of the others can too.

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    • ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In torrent client, set up Mullvad proxy.

      I guess this is the kind of shit people are talking about. Wtf does this even mean.

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      • rolling_resistance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        mullvad.net/en/help/socks5-proxy/

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  • jack@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good points, there should be an all-in-one solution you very easily guides you through all the necessary steps

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  • retrieval4558@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The knowledge is extremely easy to obtain though. There are lots of very detailed guides. It’s not extremely complex, anyway.

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    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s just hard to know what information even correctly pertains to me. My comment received a half dozen other comments… some seemingly from the US, others from the EU. Some comments saying every house has a PC (not true) others saying a PC isn’t even necessary. Some comments with how to find a good VPN, other comments saying a VPN isn’t even necessary. Then I got recommendations for a half dozen different services from various comments with no idea if they are all necessary and how they interact with each other.

      It may not be extremely complex, but until you get your feet wet, it sure seems like it is. In my day you downloaded what you wanted off of Kazaa or BearShare or the like and then watched it on your PC with VLC. or if you were really fancy you burned it on CDS or DVDS. Then when the bad emails or letters came in, you just told your parents it was the neighbors.

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  • Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, most of this is wrong?

    What are you reading for 3 hours about a VPN?

    Why do you need to know about ports? You can literally put shows on a flash drive and plug it in.

    A alone PC, why? What?

    A lot of this can be done, but this is not the bar for entry by any means.

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• EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  plus, you fight corporate greed.

  Theft removes the original, priacy makes a copy.

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• helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wow theft is free!? Who would have thought!

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  • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Piracy is a service and pricing issue. Plenty of people willing to pay, proven by the fact the streaming services were so successful in the first place. They’re just not willing to take substantial pay hikes when they’re going hungry.

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, piracy is an entitlement issue.

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      • Apollo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Piracy is a capitalism problem.

        People don’t pay what it actually costs, people pay that + the revenues the company brings home. And that’s a lot now.

        Operating at a loss is a standard practice that is not only meant to drive user adoption, but to (whoops!) remove competition with smaller bags to pay losses from. So we end up with a few services that do whatever they want.

        This is not okay.

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      • gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        boo-hoo-hoo poor mega corps, I’m pretty sure the CEOs of these companies were paying by their own money the price difference of the true cost and the decreased subscription price of all the customers and they will walk out poorer. Not with millions in their pockets.

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• TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  lol I’m like 20 clicks into Sonarr’s website and I still cant find a simple answer: what is Sonarr?

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  • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some sites just assume you know. In short, thing that automates and streamlines series piracy. Radarr is for films, Lidarr for music, Readarr for book, Whisparr for porn, Prowlarr allows to better manage sources for all of the above.

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    • NightAuthor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t forget about autobrr, for getting things as fast as electronically possible, increasing your seeding ratio to ungodly levels.

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      • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Wow, interesting! Thanks.

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    • SEND_NOODLES_PLS@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So is Prowlarr an alternative to Jackett? I’ve use Jackett before but it was (as best as I could understand) a way to translate different indexer URIs into a common format.

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      • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        More or less, yes, they serve similar purposes.

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  • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed. I found it a bit disappointing they skipped to the highlights without describing the big picture first. This is from their GitHub:

    Sonarr is a PVR for Usenet and BitTorrent users. It can monitor multiple RSS feeds for new episodes of your favorite shows and will grab, sort and rename them. It can also be configured to automatically upgrade the quality of files already downloaded when a better quality format becomes available.

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    • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Took a buttload of Googling to just figure out what PVR stands for lol… and I’m still not sure I got it right. Seems like it’s Personal Video Recording??

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• crackajack@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My main gripe with torrent is that there isn’t always a seeder available. This is a major issue if you’re looking for a movie that isn’t mainstream. There are pirate streaming services but we know that the quality is not also great. Even if you download from torrent, the quality is not also always great. I definitely noticed difference in video and sound quality between torrent and what your get from “mainstream” sources. Some torrent say they’re 4k or HD quality, but many files are actually cropped so that uploading and downloading is faster.

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  • Sanyanov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d also give Usenet and Soulseek a try, lots of rare media in there

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  • NightAuthor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve got a setup that has gradually improved over the years, I have put a few hundred $$ in that time too.

    But, it was fairly easy to get started, my improvements have made the automatic downloads very consistently high quality, and sonarr/radarr do all the searching and filtering for me.

    My wife wanted to watch some Winnie the Pooh, within like 5 minutes the first season was ready to watch, and the rest was finished downloading and ready before the 1 episode was over.

    And it only took 5 minutes because I had to help the searcher bc all my auto filters are optimized for recent releases. Though I’m gonna set up some filters for older stuff, so it’s not trying to download a 4K hdr file for something that came out 50 years ago and was never remastered to 4K.

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