Comment on Any idea what Google are doing? Is this because I dont use Chrome (use Firefox)? I've no adblockers.

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• user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sooo…, you’ll literally need to use adblocker to use YouTube. Interesting.

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  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It really is given that they’ve willingly entered a game of cat and mouse and chosen to assume the role of a blind, limbless mouse.

    As others have said before me, I feel for the poor engineers who have to implement this stuff as any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not sure what you mean by “short of DRM”, because YouTube already does what it can to prevent unauthorised clients accessing it. (Have you seen how unreliable “YouTube downloaders” can be, especially for very long videos or in resolutions above HD?) But ultimately the flaw in any DRM-style solution is that the end result still needs to be able to be played back on client-controlled systems, and that is always going to provide an avenue for exploitation. It can’t be avoided.

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      • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I use an automated YouTube downloader as part of my media lab and have had a 100% success rate for downloads over several years, so, sincerely, I don’t know what you mean.

        And yes, my argument wasn’t that DRM is flawless, just that it’s a feasible next step in Google trying to achieve their purpose.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I feel for the poor engineers who have to implement this stuff

      I don’t. They had every opportunity to do the ethical thing and refuse to implement it, but didn’t.

      On a related note, the industry norms need to be changed such that software engineers should be licensed Professional Engineers, should be unionized, or both.

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      • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I also work in industry as a software engineer, tech lead, and occasional eng manager and haven’t seen anyone do this over several decades.

        I don’t think many people, software engineers included, are troubled by YouTube wanting to monetize their content or defending their right to do so. It’s opting for such an easily bypassed method that makes this such a chore for the implementor.

        It’s also bold to assume they might not have suggested, prototyped or specced other solutions to this problem but were still tasked with this one for whatever reason. Either way, I’d rather assume good intent and high locus than assume they are “trapped” in to implementing software that defies their own moral beliefs.

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    • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      as any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.

      Oh, that’s why WebDRM.

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    • psud@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      DRM isn’t effective on its own, it needs law with severe punishment to survive

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  • AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sooo…, you’ll literally need to use adblocker to use YouTube the internet. Interesting.

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• Goodie@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Are you sure? Or is it because you’re not in the test group?

  I’m on nightly/up to date ublock and i see it.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve been wondering if it’s uBlock Origin or me not being part of the test yet. Sounds like the latter. Shit.

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    • TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I got the pop-up too, but I can just kick the X and continue watching without adds. Got unlock origin.

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      • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s phase one. At one point, a timer will appear and you have ti wait until you can click the X. Lastly, the video will stay locked and cannot be watched.

        You seeing the popup means you need to update the uBlock filters and disable other add-on’s ad filters like Enhancer’s Block Ads feature.

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    • TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I got the pop-up too, but I can just kick the X and continue watching without adds. Got unlock origin.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Good to know! Thanks!

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    • kobra@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I’ve had it sporadically happen to me but last night was the most effective. Fully updated Firefox and ublock on windows and I could only watch 3 videos before getting locked out.

      Previous to last night, I hadn’t seen the pop up for at least a week.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I actually had it about 20 minutes ago. Forgot to post here. But when I Xed out of it, it played normally.

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  • Silejonu@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Did you update your filters?

    I had the pop-up today, updated my filters then reloaded the page, and the warning was gone.

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  • narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pretty sure, as I saw the popup multiple times, updated uBlock filters and didn’t see them again since.

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  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s no test group, it’s available now. Instructions here

    reddit.com/…/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_…

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    • Skyhighatrist@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s no test group

      They are almost certainly talking about a test group on YouTube, not uBlock Origin. Sites do that sometimes, it’s called A/B Testing. Where different users will get different versions of the site to test something or other before changes are rolled out for all users.

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      • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah, the second sentence made it sound like they were questioning the uBlock implementation, not YouTube’s.

        And not just sites, but all forms of software can implement A/B and multivariate tests, including software like uBlock Origin. I’ve implemented A/B and multivariate tests before, and have even co-designed and developed an experimentation platform, so it’s a subject close to my heart!

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• cybersandwich@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I actually installed ublockorigin after hitting these types of messages on a few sites. I think howtogeek does the same thing.

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• GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  According to OP it turned out to be an extension causing the problem

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• Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The cobra effect

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• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Their detection script is probably trying so hard that it hits false positives.

  Nostalgic.

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• rwhitisissle@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As someone with an up to date ublock origin on Firefox, I literally just got one.

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  • Enkrod@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you have YouTube Enhancer disable its adblocking.

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    • rwhitisissle@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That was probably it. Thanks!

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• RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I started getting this last night even with UO before I realized FF was waiting for me to restart for an update.

  Oops.

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• JazzAlien@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I got this popup today on Firefox with ublock origin.

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• DuncanIdaho@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  LOL thats nuts!

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