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JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Stages of climate change dental:
1 it doesn’t exist 2 we aren’t causing it 3 it isn’t that bad 4 we can’t solve it 5 it’s too late now (so might as well go on consuming oil)
We can’t just throw our hands up and give up because we don’t know how bad it will be yet. So we should still try everything we can to stop ghg emissions and sequester those already in the air.
That’s basically the mindset I’m in.
We’re screwed and won’t shape up in time. But I’m still going to self reflect and improve myself.
There is very little chance. But there is zero chance if everyone lets zero chance stop them from caring about their own actions.
Also sure there is a climate catastrophe going on that causes irreparable damage
BUT
That doesn’t mean we should be causing an EVEN WORSE climate catastrophe
Didn’t know my dentist set up stages of denial. 😉
Lol thanks
That’s nicely said.
I think however, the problem is more that everybody wants to solve climate change, as long as it doesm’t cost them anything.
And since big companies and banks are the only ones with enough money to make a significant difference, climate change will only be solved by having cost-competitive clean sources of energy. Which we have.
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People more powerful than you can dream, with their arms up world government “leaders” asses telling them what to do and say, are going to enforce maximum profit at the planet’s expense until the apocalyptic day they retreat to the luxury climate bunkers they’ve been building around the world, look it up.
Then they’ll keep barking orders remotely until the last capitalist, true believer sycophant on the other end finally tells them to fuck off and die damage done.
It isn’t too late because we couldn’t, as a species mitigate some of the worst effects with concerted, global effort. It’s too late because the egotistical, sociopathic world oligarchs that own you and I in every practical way have zero interest in the survival of our species after they’ve left the stage of life, and they’ll play this planet like a harp from hell for every fucking nickel until they can’t.
And we the peasants will go along, afraid stopping them will inturrupt the flow of our pathetic subsistence opiates like social media, fast food, literal opiates, etc.
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Then eat the rich? There’s always something that can be done.
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ll be honest friend, I am so tired of that expression. People say it, and nothing happens ever.
There are people doing this. We know who they are, where are they are, and they’re literally outnumbered millions to one.
Yet we will do nothing, because of 2 things:
from Kindergarten through schools of economics through all major media they own, they’ve trained any receptive peasants that their way is the only correct way. Capitalism is human nature. Greed doesn’t exist, only “rational self-interest.” if you give the owners everything they’ll piss it back on you. On and fucking on. And unfortunately most peasants are effectively propagandized into this mindset against their own interests. And when that doesn’t work…
fear of losing access to our subsistence opiates. We can’t revolt and hang the profiteers destroying the planet, social media will go down, fast food restaurants will close, my favorite drama series might not come back!
When there’s a meaningful group of people assembling to eat the rich, I’ll be there with bells on, but only if it’s there to do more than protest in a designated protest zone with a city permit out of the owner’s line of sight.
Until then, “eat the rich” is just a sad reminder to me of how well defeated and compliant we are in the face of for profit Armageddon.
whitepawn@reddthat.com 1 year ago
While everything you say is true, it’s not all scornful.
Some folks work 8-16hrs a day and if they don’t, their child will cry in hunger, the lights get shut off, and immediate needs get difficult.
It’s not all about TV and fast food, it’s about the bottom layer or two of Maslow’s Heirarchy.
It’s why we had riots post George Floyd. People had time (off work) alongside an unemployment check (no scorn as I type that, just laying out some of the contributing variables that made it so.). Hell, lack of social interaction may have brought folks out to where other people were as well.
The root reason can be noble as fuck, but without the right set of circumstances that allows for some assurance of not losing job, roof, health care and such, it ain’t happening, at least not to any effective scale.
mjhelto@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Hear hear. I, too, am tired of that phrase, but the recent rounds of unionization and indictments of the powerful few give me hope that the gullible boomer generation, who believed all of their shit because of their selfishness, are either dying or are being replaced. I think it’s only going to get larger and more organized the more we’re pushed to the extremes.
It might be too late to stop the train from derailing, but their normal placations and lies aren’t working on the newer gens. We know America is not the bastion of freedom and liberty our forebearers fawned over and ate up from the capitalists. We have eyes and critical thinking and they’ve taken everything from us.
The more people that realize how pointless money is, how debt is as fake as George Santos’ gold medals, and the rich only hold that title because we believe it, the more they will reap the consequences of their actions.
You are my new favorite person on Lemmy!
explodicle@local106.com 1 year ago
It sounds like we need a way to address externalities that they can’t simply shut down. Like bittorrent but for insurance.
Or we just give up and die because the solution involves money.
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Or we just give up and die because the solution involves money.”
That is a falsehood. One you’re conditioned to propagate. The solution would involve rejecting profit and the infinite growth capitalism requires in favor of homeostatsis with this world. Growing our own food and resources locally, re-establishing bartering instead of capital to revaluate things that matter, food/medicine/construction supplies, instead of things that don’t, useless plastic/shiny metal junk, as we do now. abandoning consumerism for things we don’t need to survive and prosper.
We won’t do that, but that would be the available solution. We will instead stay the course, and buy the latest oligarch snake oil like planetary scale carbon filter vaporware they’re trying to sell governments, just like “clean coal” and “natural” ethanol as solutions before it.
explodicle@local106.com 1 year ago
Is this why you put externalities in quotes? What you’re calling an available solution is a massive prisoner’s dilemma - whoever goes first is worse off.
Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I would argue they’ve had complete control long before all of that. No, humanity is inherently flawed when it comes to considering the collective good. But if you are like me and believe on a macro scale all of humanity is only an extension of universal nature then there is nothing to be upset about. No more upset then when a leave falls from a tree only to become dirt again.
PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Guillotines
buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I hear Detroit is nice