Comment on Google tipped off authorities to illicit images in Canadian doctor's account, search warrants say
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 month ago
severe mix feelings.
glad they caught him, but corporations casually snooping through your data and report whatever they want is definitely not an good thing
Microsoft has been doing this for years. It was with Onedrive at first but now that they’ve enabled “analytics” in every product that might connect to the internet they can have it all searched.
Supposedly it is first filtered by algorithms but that shit is still being uploaded somewhere other than your hard drive.
I believe it was in preview build versions of Win 7 or 10 where researchers found it was sending the generated thumbnails of images on your PC to Redmond (MS HQ). Can’t remember if they said it was for CSAM detection or just a debugging feature in the preview builds.
the generated thumbnails of images on your PC
So the precursor to Recall?
Unfortunately, the negative effects from companies like Google turning in completely ethical people for doing things that should be completely legal and uncontroversial will do drastically more damage than the positive effects from said companies turning in the poorest of the pedophiles.
Example please
The company is literally building death camps, installing statues of genociders, is run by the RICH pedophiles(who have ZERO interest in seeing pedophiles prosecuted), and is using Palantir and Flock cameras to monitor everything, meanwhile having secret police disappear people and just openly slaughter them.
The United States Government is well beyond deserving the benefit of the doubt.
Great do you have a single example of what you’re claiming, lol. Google turning in a perfectly ethical person for doing something that should be legal and uncontroversial.
You’re moving the goal posts and changing your argument.
They’re suggesting it was automated hash based recognition.
I don’t have a problem with CSAM hash matching.
Sure, until it starts flagging normal pictures with us janky AI and you get your door kicked in based on a warrant signed by Google.
This literally already happened here in Sweden. A guy got assaulted by masked police in the middle of the night because an American company had gone through photos in his Yahoo mail and flagged his 30 year old boyfriend as possible CSAM.
People like to think that Sweden is progressive etc. and I’d rebut it with this. If it can happen here, it could happen anywhere.
my issue is that we have a framework for corporations to scan all your data and inform the state. used to stop CSAM, but it’s a matter of state policy wether said structure will be used to fight discent.
I agree. We’ve seen this happening in the USA “yes technically they can do that but they would never”. Now we know better.
Eventually “sprinkle some crack on him” will turn into “put some CSAM in his google drive”
“The first image in the ‘Nudity’ collection … depicted who I believe to be David Edward-Ooi Poon without a shirt, taking a selfie of himself while sticking out his tongue over an unconscious adult female,” the search-warrant application states. The document goes on to describe the woman in the photo as naked below the waist and wearing a dark-coloured eye mask over her eyes.
The detective alleges that that photograph and others she examined appeared to be stored in a folder on the iPhone titled “Girls I Drugged And Raped.”
Doesn’t sound like hashes to me.
That is the result of the search warrant.
In EU it’s straight out forbidden
looking at account images or pedophilia?
Both
Reasonable pair of laws, just as I’d expect from them
Anyone with the public trust of dealing with patients needs to be scrutinized.
I don’t disagree with that. but the feels like propaganda to destroy privacy and encourage a total surveillance state.
Dojan@pawb.social 1 month ago
Was a gay guy here in Sweden who got assaulted and kidnapped by masked police because some American company had found CSAM on his account while crawling through Yahoo email.
Only it wasn’t CSAM, the photos depicted the man’s 30 year old twinky boyfriend.
No restitution. No police were punished for assaulting a suspect proved innocent. The man and his boyfriend both were humiliated.
I’ve no mixed feelings about it. Spying through private data is entirely unforgivable. There are plenty of pesos out there who get caught and nothing happens anyway. They don’t need to violate innocent people’s privacy to do their job.
Like if the ends justify the means you can end all suffering in the world by just nuking everything. All problems solved.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Oh gods now you have me worried. 20 years ago I was a hundred pounds lighter and just a bag of skin holding a skeleton. There are some photos of me on my Google account that skinny. (also in your medical textbooks but anyways) and I also have photos of me now. We look like completely different people.
bluejayway@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
never too late to use another service to back up your photos! ente is a good alternative, i personally use proton drive (it’s kind of a crappy interface and not nearly as good as google, but it works). if you’re at all curious about self hosting, immich is basically a 1:1 google photos replacement.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
google is our offsite backup. i’ve got a decent onsite already.