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abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
People: âI am NOT paying my barista a tip for this, what do you MEAN they DEMAND a tip.â
Meanwhile the Barista is being paid less than US$3 an hour because in America, you can be paid that and be expected to reach minimum wage through tips if you work food service. Want to end that? Demand that food service workers be paid minimum wage at the very least. Donât want to do even that? Then stop getting fast food.
Donât want to do even that? Then stop getting fast food.
Not to take away from your point, but fast food workers get minimum wage, theyâre not subject to the slave wages food service workers have to deal with. They get the moderately better minimum, rather than hoping tips makes it to minimum.
Yeah I was like wait, now we have to tip at Taco Bell? Fuck this country.
Give it a few years, I wouldnât be surprised
Donât want to do even that? Then stop getting fast food.
Thatâs exactly right. Being against tipping as a concept is fine, but the idea that we can end tipping culture by refusing to tip is fundamentally accelerationist. âSurely if we torture the workers enough theyâll be forced to demand higher wages!â
This is what Iâve done. I havenât been out to eat since before the pandemic. I got used to making my meals at home.
The logic of punishing our fellow victims of the system has always struck me as both misguided and cruel.
Thank you for pointing it out!
To be fair, I donât think baristas get the ~$3 minimum wage. Not Starbucks workers at least.
Iâm sorry, by if they work at Starbucks, theyâre not baristas
OK cool. Theyâre still not making $3/hour.
Iâm not aware of anywhere that pays (or is even allowed to pay) baristas what waiters and bartenders get. There may be exceptions. This post seems to be about literally anyplace with a new POS having basically options for 20-30% tips, despite the person behind it making like $15 an hour (at least where I live). Fortunately, lately, Iâll have the person reach around and press the âno tipâ button often enough, since itâs usually the least obvious option available.
$15/hr still isnât a living wage in most places, just for the record. Itâs better than server wages for sure, but itâs not stable-life-level income.
Fast food isnât a place that typically solicits tips or pays tip wages. Sit down restaurants with waiters and bar tenders are where this occurs.
Youâd be surprised. Iâve seen tons of fast food/counter service places that have tips enabled on the POS. And I sure as shit am not tipping at any place that I have to get my food from the counter.
I begrudgingly tip at ârealâ food establishments, since Iâm societally handcuffed to supporting worker wages in restaurants when I go there, but fuck literally every other establishment that asks for tips.
And I really need to get it through one of my partnersâ heads that we should not be tipping minimum wage places, the org most likely pockets most of not all of that and the workers donât see shit.
I am the same mantra as you. If you are being paid tip wages, then Iâll tipâŠif not hell no.
We donât allow this in WA for instance.
Big up Western Australia
Pretty obviously in context Washington state
parzival@lemmy.org âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
In my city they get paid 21/hr min wage iirc, and while lower elsewhere, barely anywhere uses federal min wage right?
ickplant@lemmy.world âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Tons of places still use the federal minimum wage. Thats how you get Mississippi.
parzival@lemmy.org âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Damn well thereâs the problem, ig i just live in an expensive city so thereâs higher min
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
in my state itâs 17/20/25/27/38 i think but iâm not sure on the last two, itâs been a while. tips donât enter into calculations at all toward your wages, theyâre just separate.
parzival@lemmy.org âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Same in my city abt the tips, but iirc federally they count towards min. wage