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the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• gigachad@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I am usually not that guy, but honestly, why not just install Linux Mint at this point

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because some people still require windows for what ever reason and also it’s fun to resist corporate bullshit by spitting in their face.

    Personally I switched to Bazzite for my gaming rigs and Mint for everything else, but I wont judge anyone who wants to stay on windows despite the hostility microsoft has for its user base and I say more power to them.

    Those who stand defiant in the face of overwhelming odds are exactly the sort of folk I like.

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    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      resist corporate bullshit by spitting in their face.

      “Resist corporate bullshit by eschewing the non-corporate option – which, because it’s open, gets better the more people use it – in favor of continuing to use the exact same corporate product but with an abstruse, hacky workaround that all of 0.001% of the userbase will use and will probably be plugged by this time next week. That’ll show those corpo fucks who’s boss. ✊Ⓐ”

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    • chloroken@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      How is continuing to use their product (thus being farmed for telemetry and other revenues) defiant in any way?

      The reality is you and others are afraid of change. There is no windows-only program I can’t run. Your defiance is futile and you’re the only one suffering, not Microsoft.

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      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I get it but let me give you an example of the sort of thing Linux is dealing with:

        I have a nephew who wanted a PC, and had a small budget (they where 11 at the time and I was not going to let them pay) so I used some parts around and made a not so bad mint machine. It worked very well but can not play fortnight (not an issue with mint or the hardware) or other such anti-cheat games. The child was ok with it but his parents got mad at me as to why I would not just “be normal” and put a real operating system on the machine. They tried to tell my nephew that he should not use his PC until they can bring it to someone that can “fix” it by putting windows on it (they are kinda asshats). Lucky for my nephew the place they took the PC said the same thing I did and that it would not run well with windows on it, but would do it if they wanted (they said no when they got the cost).

        So the PC gets used and is enjoyed (it was the nephews birthday present from me), and used by his father as much as him. But all this time I am getting constant complaints about the “weird stuff” I forced on them, and that one day they will get him a “real” computer. Keep in mind my brother has a PC that is running windows that has more bloat and malware then you would think possible at this time (I think why he kept using his son’s) that was about the same in hardware (1060, am4 3600ish, 8 gigs of ram sort of machines). The mint PC was clearly better, and when their child started to point out how much more time my brother spent on his Linux computer then his own my brother just happened to “spill” a whole glass of water directly into his son’s computer. Then he hid the PC away and just blamed it not working on the “bad software” that it was running, and how it was a “trash” machine anyway. (I did get it back eventually, replaced the board and shipped it back to my nephew who is now using it again).

        So the point of the story is this, would you if you had to deal with users (and lets assume you are not related to them) like this put Linux on their machines or just not want to deal with them and put a ripped and custom windows on it?

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      • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Can you run Battlefield 6?

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      • IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The reality is you and others are afraid of change. There is no windows-only program I can’t run.

        Well I’m glad you represent everybody.

        People who need to use software like the Adobe suite professionally? They should just abandon their whole career and not use Adobe. Being unemployed will really show em.

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    • gigachad@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I don’t judge, I just don’t understand. At this level, you need way more skills to keep your Windows account local than installing Linux with their GUI wizard. I understand some people need Windows professionally for Photoshop, but I guess the large majority doesn’t. If you reed this Windows used, now is the time. Trust me, you will experience a level of freedom and performance you would have never thought of.

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      • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Hey I’m with you, at this point it seems like a losing battle to stay secure on windows and it will only get worse. But some people will want to keep using it for whatever reason. As long as I have the ability to assist them I will, freedom of choice is important even when the choice is a bad one.

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    • NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Heard good things about Bazzite, how does it work out with .exe game files off the internet etc?

      Ive got a boat load of games that aren’t on steam/are from GOG or itch and run as their own files instead of being run off a service

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      • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I haven’t had any issues with any of the the games I play. For example recently I’ve been playing Driver San Francisco and all I had to do was tell my system to run it using proton and it plays, no weird configurations or workarounds needed. I have even had some games that were so buggy on windows they would randomly crash that ran like they were native on linux. RAGE for instance always gave weird memory errors on windows but on Bazzite it just worked. I am fairly anti social though so I don’t play any online games so I can’t vouch for those. I’ve heard older multiplayer games seem to work fine with a few work-arounds. If you look up guides on how to get things running on the Steam Deck they usually work for getting things running on Bazzite as well.

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  • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m that guy.

    Install Linux Mint.

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  • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I cannot find this meme I know I have seen

    Panel 1: “Installing Windows 20 years ago” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons
    Panel 2: “Installing Linux 20 years ago” screenshot of a busy command line
    Panel 3: “Installing Windows today” screenshot of a busy command line
    Panel 4: “Installing Linux today” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons

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    • kuebic@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Made a new one for you Image

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      • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Awesome, thanks! You should definitely post that to a Linux meme community or something.

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• pure_bliss@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Lol im stealing that

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    • pure_bliss@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      its ok, not mine

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• the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That’s a lot of instructions just to use the computer you paid for and is yours…

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Linux has its stupid bullshit too, its just 12 of one and a dozen of another sort of situation. For example I don’t have to jump through hoops to mount a secondary drive on windows I just install the drive and there it is. But on linux I have to jump through all sorts of ridiculous hoops for some stupid reason. However it will auto mount flash drives and sd cards even though those are the ones more likely to pose a security risk.

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    • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I just plugged in an old drive to make sure I’m not going crazy, and I didn’t do anything besides hit the power button, log in, and open the file explorer:

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      And its right there.

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      • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That behavior is controlled in the gnome user session defaults

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It depends on the DE.

        Even still, typing mount /dev/sda1 external isn’t exactly Cirque du Soleil

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      • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        articles like this wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t true, they will appear but they wont auto mount techhut.tv/auto-mount-drives-in-linux-fstab/

        *some distros may auto mount but I never used one that did

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    • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What are you running? Mine just shows up, I double click it and supply the encryption password and it’s mounted. (Which could be skipped if it wasn’t encrypted)

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      • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        So many people do not understand the “auto” part of auto mount, clicking on it first is not auto mount. Auto mount means its mounted on boot not after you click on it.

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    • blue_canuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Say what? That’s not true in the slightest, if the drive is mountable it will show up in your file manager.

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      • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        articles like this wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t true, they will appear but they wont auto mount techhut.tv/auto-mount-drives-in-linux-fstab/

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    • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, but again you don’t have to do all this stuff just to use the PC. And for having the tiny user base Linux does it’s amazingly pro-user compared to the monopolistic bullshittery that is Microsoft Windows.

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• FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Windows users: “I don’t want to swap to Linux, you have to follow arcane instructions from the Internet and use the terminal to do a basic tasks”

  Also Windows users: “Now here is how you add a local user:”

  at the first setup screen instead of answering any of the questions press Shift + F10.

  CMD will open.

  Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add” (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter.

  Next type “net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add” and press enter.

  Next type “net user Prefferedusername /active:yes” and press enter.

  Next type “net user Prefferedusername /expires:never” and press enter.

  Next type “net user administrator /active:no” and press enter.

  Next type “net user defaultUser0 /delete” (this is case sensitive make sure the “U” is capitalized) and press enter.

  Next type “regedit” and press enter.

  This opens registry editor, navigate to “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE”

  Delete “DefaultAccountAction”, “DefaultAccountSAMName”, and “DefaultAccountSID”

  Right click on “LaunchUserOOBE” and rename it to “SkipMachineOOBE” and make sure the value is set to “1”.

  Close registry editor and type “shutdown /r /t 0”

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• pika@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Next type “ net user Prefferedusername/active:yes” and press enter.

  A space is needed before the slash on this command, right?

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You are correct I will update my instructions.

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  • greybeard@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t know if this is the case, but I’ve found that often Windows commands see the space as optional. It’s weird, but generally works.

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    • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      In this case the space before net won’t matter but it does make it more consistent. The space before the “/” however will matter.

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• SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add”

  Using backticks instead of quotation marks is the ideal way to document technical instructions like this here:

  Type net user Prefferedusername /add (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter.Next type

  net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add and press enter.

  Type `net user Prefferedusername /add` (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter.Next type
  
  `net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add` and press enter.
  

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• Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  And same people are complaining that Linux is difficult to install…

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No, they aren’t. The only people I ever here say that are angry linux fanboys complaining that people won’t use their preferred distro. This guide is for the people who want to do such a thing. If you don’t want to then don’t no one cares. Use Bazzite or Mint if you think linux is too hard.

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• anon5621@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Honestly in my opinion just pirate windows ltsc/iot ltsc/server ltsc editions

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A lot of people are doing that too, I’m not here to judge just to help.

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• fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Intructions unclear.

  Invalid command: net rap user Prefferedusername
  Usage:
  net rap user add             Add specified user
  net rap user info            List domain groups of specified user
  net rap user delete          Remove specified user
  

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    net user fossilesque /add I don’t know where you are getting “rap” from but remove that.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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      • Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Say ‘noot noot’ again. Say ‘noot noot’ again, I dare you, I double dare you motherfucker, say noot noot one more Goddamn time!

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• Thteven@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’ve been doing this in command prompt:

  reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

  shutdown/r /t 0

  After reboot it lets you choose “I don’t have internet” and you can continue with creating a local account.

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Haha does this mean they removed only the BypassNRO script, but not the underlying regkey?

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    • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If they did it would make all the bullshit I typed earlier entirely pointless, and honestly I hope its true because having to do all of the just to get a local account is ridiculous.

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• BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I thought they started blocking that work around

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Unless the remove local accounts all together or disable shift F10 in the OOBE this should work, it just sets up a local account through command prompt in a similar manner that lusrmrg.msc would.

    That said I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if they remove local accounts altogether next.

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    • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think that was part of a Windows 11 update, but I’d have to find the article

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• relativestranger@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  i’ve run across a couple prebuilts where shift-f10 didn’t work at any screen of the oobe. those just got clean installs via rufus.

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Honestly that is the best approach if you are able too, but this guide is for those who can’t or won’t for whatever reason. schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/ is also a great resource if you want to customize it further.

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• Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You could also just make the iso using Rufus. It sounds easier than this shit.

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