Comment on GitHub CEO delivers stark message to developers: Embrace AI or get out.

rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• bless@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  GitHub is owned by Microsoft, and Microsoft is forcing AI on all the employees

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  • TeddE@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Honestly I’ve been recommending setting up a personal git store and cloning any project you like, I imagine the next phase of this is Microsoft making a claim that if Copilot ‘assisted’ all these projects, Microsoft is a part owner of all these projects - in a gambit to swallow and own open source.

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    • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      loads of self hosted alternatives if you so require it

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am surprised they aren’t embracing it… I would. You immediately get some vague non person to blame all your failures on.

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    • rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I agree, let them generate massive tech debt cause right now the majority of my current clients have hired me to clean up their AI slop.

      is it bad for their users? oh hell yes it is. Is it great for me an other consultants/freelancers? hell yes it is. Best thing that’s ever happened to my wallet recently are vibe coders. I love those dumb prompt monkeys.

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  • ksh@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They all need to be sued for unethical “Embrace, Extend and Extinguish” practices again

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    • end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      best I can do is rusty dull guillotine

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      • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        nah rusty and a blade that is serrated… make way more mess. As an aside the guillotine was designed for theatre, the mechanism actually makes that loud noise on purpose! Pointless to kill someone without a bit of theatre don’t ya think

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• buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because unlike with the other tools you use the CEO of your company is investing millions of dollars into AI and they want a big return on their investment.

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  • DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Return? No, there is no return on investment from AI. If there really was a return to be had from Devs, you wouldn’t have to force them to use it.

    This is a saving face and covering their asses exercise. Option 1 is “We spent the money, nobody’s using it, the bubbles gonna burst”, the other choice is “if we can ramp up the usage numbers before the earnings call, we can get some of that sweet investor money to buy us out of being mauled by our shareholders”.

    It’s shitty management, making shitty decisions to cover up their previous shitty decisions

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    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s the point though. These CEOs don’t know that there is not going to be an “AI revolution”. They all think they are getting in on the ground floor of the next Google or Facebook. They genuinely believe that these “AI’s” are going to revolutionize the Internet.

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      • DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        At this stage,I can’t believe that they are stupid enough to believe the shit that comes out of their mouths. Hence I say that it’s not about the return from AI, but riding the bubble before it pops, and justifying their stupidity to others by force feeding the crap they spent their money on down our throats in the hope that we don’t just throw it up on them

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think these CEOs have quite figured out that LLM developers are creating something that can more easily replace a CEO than a developer.

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• Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why do they suddenly think they have to force us to use a certain tool to get the job done?

  Not just that… why do they have to threat and push for people to use a tool that allegedly is fantastic and makes everything better and faster?.. the answer is that it does not work but they need to pump the numbers to keep the bubble going

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• sobchak@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think part of it is because they think they can train models off developers, then replace them with models. The other is that the company is heavily invested in coding LLMs and the tooling for them, so they are trying to hype them up.

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• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because like AI, your CEO is a tool.

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They are clueless, yet they think they know what we need.

  Accurate description of most managers i’ve encountered.

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• MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not about individual contributors using the right tools to get the job done. It’s about needing fewer individual contributors in the first place.

  If AI actually accomplishes what it’s being sold as, a company can maintain or even increase its productivity with a fraction of its current spending on labor. Labor is one of the largest chunks of spending a company has so, if not the largest, so reducing that greatly reduces spending which means for same or higher company income, the net profit goes up and as always, the line must go up.

  tl;dr Modern Capitalism is why they care

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  • Tamo240@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Alternatively, following their logic, keep the number of people and achieve massively higher productivity. But they don’t want that, they want to reduce the number of people having opinions and diluting the share pool, because its not about productivity, its about exerting control.

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• SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because they make money selling you the AI. It’s that simple.

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• CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They are clueless, yet they think they know what we need.

  AI make money line go up. It’s not clueless, he’s trying to sell a kind of snake oil (ok, not “snake oil”, I don’t think AI is entirely bad).

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  • ragas@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Snake oil is also not entirely bad. The placebo effect actually works.

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    • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      snake oil made me sssssssick (yes the dad jokes are weak today)

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    • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, snake oil is extremely bad. It’s a highly exploitative practice that preys on the desperation of sick people.

      That’s what “snake oil” refers to. Exploiting someone by playing their emotions.

      The placebo effect actually works.

      The placebo effect sometimes works. But only in very specific circumstances. A placebo will not cure cancer or heart disease.

      It can help with things related to pain, as mental and emotional state can directly affect the severity of pain. And a placebo can sometimes marginally improve symptoms by reducing stress levels. But that’s why placebos are used during drug trials. If a drug produces the same results as a placebo, then it doesn’t work. And that says a lot about what the placebo effect actually is. It’s just a mental state change that gets expressed as reduced physiological stress.

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