Comment on The End of Airbnb in New York

gcheliotis@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Pretzilla@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A bummer though for anyone visiting as hotels become the only option, and prices go way up, beholden to moneyed corporate interests who lobby politicians in their favor and pockets.

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  • dragontamer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    AirBnB is just as corporate and lobbyist bullshit as any other company. Arguably worse, in that AirBNB breaks the laws and then tries to get laws changed.

    Hotel chains at least try to lobby to change the laws before breaking the rules.

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    • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also, hotels are regulated in what fees they can tack on, and ensuring a basic standard of cleanliness and safety.

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  • GreyDalcenti@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In my experience over the last two years hotels are either same price OR less expensive due to AirBnBs bait and switch pricing. The taxes, cleaning fees, and random add ons are absurd.

    In a recent example, staying at some Yurt for three days was $248. After taxes and fees it was around $515. Like wtf?!

    I’m at the point where even if the pricing was flat, a hotel is 10X less hassle to deal with than AirBnB.

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    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Airbnb was nice when it was just a way to rent someone’s extra bedroom for the night. I’ve met some amazing people this way.

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    • Gyrolemmy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Gotta wonder if the competition from airbnb kept hotel prices lower. I do agree with you though.

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    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      hotels are either same price OR less expensive

      I don’t think that really contradicts what they said though. It doesn’t matter which is more expensive, they both exist within the same market and removing supply will make what remains more expensive.

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      • Apollo@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then the change is working as intended - residential buildings should never have been pulled from the rental market to compete with hotels.

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    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kinda related I stopped renting cars many years ago because of this stuff. The price says X amount of dollars a day, the bill says 2X.

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      • send_me_your_ink@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Rent via Costco. Somehow the prices your quoted is what you pay when you show up.

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  • TurboDiesel@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The last few times I’ve tried to book an AirBnB the price difference from a standard hotel room was almost nothing. AirBnB has been trash for awhile.

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    • PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I find AirBnB to be cheaper when renting an entire house vs 3 or 4 hotel rooms. But an apartment vs a hotel room is even or the hotel is cheaper

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  • Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think it’s been too long since you’ve looked at Airbnb. Prices are no longer a deal in contrast to hotels. It’s all inflated trash and no longer accessible for regular people.

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    • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not only that, but you get charged cleaning fees, but you need to clean the fucking place after. AirBnB is a scam pure and simple

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Then don’t rent them I guess?

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh no prople forced to use the same highly regulated service as millions of forebears. Tragic.

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  • lnsfw3@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Airbnb prices are approaching that of hotel rooms. You typically get a kitchen at an Airbnb, but the price argument doesn’t seem accurate from the listings I’ve looked at.

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  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People downvoting either aren’t old enough to remember how bad hotels were, or are wearing rose colored glasses.

    When airbnbs came to my city, after a few years, hotels finally lowered prices and made a effort to give a shit. I hope it doesn’t fall back to that.

    But then again, the past few years, Airbnb rentals seem to be run by shady companies instead of by homeowners with an extra room.

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    • DoomBot5@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Airbnb has basically become “hotel prices, but the cost is hidden behind cleaning fees”. Also, hotels basically stopped giving a shit after the pandemic. No loss here.

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  • Player2@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Rather hotels be inaccessible than housing. You only need one of those to live.

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  • wagoner@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Then what are you lamenting exactly?

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  • Apollo@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good? Homes should be homes, not holiday lets for tourists.

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• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Have you considered building more housing?

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  • finnie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    True! Getting rid of these AirBnBs probably doesn’t hurt things though. Now they might actually get a long-term resident.

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    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It probably doesn’t but you have to wonder why that company was so successful to begin with. I feel like we are celebrating a weight loss company getting banned.

      There is a housing shortage, there is a hotel room shortage. Someone took advantage of that. Getting rid of that someone doesn’t stop the next person.

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      • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I was successful because it’s skirting (pretty blatantly breaking actually) rental laws and thus gains an advantage over the competition.

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      • finnie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well I think it was successful for the same reason so many unicorn startups are. They were bankrolled by promising angel investors marketshare so they were able to run artificially brutally low prices to dry out the rest of the market for years. But now investors are asking for those profits back and we’re here dealing with horrible Airbnb prices AND it made the housing crisis worse. Double whammy, bb!!

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