I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced…
Panties@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
No earphone jack again. That’s a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It’s just a small inconvenience
Laser@feddit.org 21 hours ago
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
I disagree about this being a good solution. USB-C is not meant to take the strain of being used as an audio port when being used in the go so there is risk of damaging the port while a headphone jack is more stable and allows the plug to rotate. Plus I don’t want to have a dingle I can forget when in a rush.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
They should make cases with the adapter built in, the way they used to (still do?) for external battery packs.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
You also have to remember to have that adapter with you
Laser@feddit.org 21 hours ago
An issue shared with the headphones themselves
Fermion@feddit.nl 20 hours ago
I just leave the adapter plugged into the headphones. Then there’s nothing extra to manage.
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
You can find adapters that can charge while still having a 3.5mm back
hcbxzz@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
fast charging / USB-PD may not work, and 3.5mm media controls may not pass through properly
Panties@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
It’s really a small inconvenience, but using an adapter would mean I’d be prone to misplace it when I use my headphones on anything else, so it hardly makes anything better
Laser@feddit.org 20 hours ago
The reason for not using a headphone jack is making it simpler for the manufacturer, one less connector to handle which also limits how slim a phone can be.
I’m not saying this is good for the consumer, but there are reasons for integrating the functionality into the USB-C port.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
For $700 I’m not interested in compromising my own convenience for theirs.
hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
These points were all disproved long ago. The jack is a the same thickness as the display.
The reason is because BT headphones have a much higher margin, and need to be replaced every few years because of the battery (if not already replaced because they were lost or damaged).
It’s just a dumb cash grab.
Ulrich@feddit.org 10 hours ago
one less connector to handle which also limits how slim a phone can be.
The headphone jack is 3.5mm. iPhones are ~7.5mm thick, more than double. The smallest phone available on the market is 4.2mm.
Ulrich@feddit.org 19 hours ago
It’s not hard to manufacture a headphone jack. We’ve been doing it since the 80s. Probably costs them a penny BOM.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
I have a tablet that came with a C to 3.5 adapter and it worked well enough for a bit but soon enough it was only intermittently allowing the headphone connection to work, with a message about the port being dirty or something. Yet I could go right from unplugging that and putting the charger in and it worked fine.
There’s just no substitute for a dedicated port, especially when it barely takes up any room
Ulrich@feddit.org 19 hours ago
Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity.
Mandrilleren@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I never use wired headphones even though I have a jack in my phone. But I have never bought a phone without a jack and probably never will.
Ipersonally think it’s user hostile to remove the jack and also goes directly agains the green profile Fairphone wants to have.
ggwithgg@feddit.nl 21 hours ago
You have these usb-c to mini jack adapters. They are like 5 to 10eu. They are small enough to keep them attached to your jack headphone. It works perfectly for me.
I think it is better to view the usb-c plug as ‘one protocol to rule them all’. If you do so, it makes quite some sense.
brotundspiele@feddit.org 19 hours ago
Every adapter I had was broken after a year or less. I imagine if you keep them attached to your phone, they’ll break even faster. Do these adapters exist with a 90° angle which might help preventing broken cables?
Not really in the spirit of reducing waste.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 21 hours ago
I’ve never had one of those actually work…
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
The sound quality on them blows no matter which you get.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 15 hours ago
Honestly, I don't really get the people who complain about the lack of 3.5mm jack on a smartphone. If you're looking for quality you're more likely to get better quality out quality USB-C headphones than quality 3.5mm headphones due to the USB-C headphones picking up less noise and having its own DAC (which is probably better than the phone DAC that 3.5mm would use).
Mihies@programming.dev 15 hours ago
What about the simplicity?
Goodeye8@piefed.social 14 hours ago
I don't follow? If you mean simplicity in terms of ease of use you might as well use BT headphones as you don't have to worry about any wire management. Ease of use is the main reason BT headphones are the go to for most people. No carefully packing the wires so it won't break, no accidental wiring mess or anything wire related. You just turn them on (which for most in-ear ones just means taking them out of the case), stick them to your ear and you're good to go.
If you meant anything else by simplicity you need to expand that idea.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
I never have to charge my wired headphones.
Kowowow@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
“Modularity” but still no headphone jack, couldn’t I just have a backplate with a big bump on it to accommodate a 3.5mm jack?
foggenbooty@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Big? The headphone jack is not large enough to protrude from a cell phone chassis. Any company telling you they can’t fit it is just lying to sell you BT headphones.
lobut@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
I was just hoping a phone like fairphone would give me the option to buy a small module or something to let me do it.
Yes, yes there’s adapters … yes, yes, you don’t need to use it … I understand. I just want it.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 10 hours ago
You'd ultimately be sacrificing battery size for that Aux jack you hardly use. For most that's not worth it
lobut@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
I mean … you don’t have to tell me that my opinion isn’t popular, it’s demonstrable. My opinion is statistically insignificant.
There’s a plethora of other things I’d give up like have a slighter bigger phone or a worse camera or wireless charging… I’d also trade those for an SD card slot but no one agrees with me and it’s just something I need to live with.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 20 hours ago
For the amount of space a earphone jack takes it really doesn't make sense for them to include it, when you can just use a cheap adaptor cable
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
“For the amount of space it takes to include a second speaker or second camera it doesn’t really make sense when you can just plug in an external one”
You sound like an idiot.
I can buy a phone from HMD that’s more repairable, more modular, and has sustainable features.
Fairphone has been a busted flush since they ditched the headphone jack. It’s just the most obvious sign amongst many they started making landfill phones.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 10 hours ago
Resorting to insults really?
3.5mm Aux takes up a shit load of space to connect 4 analog wires. If a phone has Aux it should at the very least be 2.5mm.
It makes no sense to me why you can't just use an adapter.
More battery > Redundant analog cable most people don't use anyway.
visikde@lemmings.world 9 hours ago
Having yet another thing to keep charged
a usb port is far easier to break
I hate earbuds, I want my same old over the ear $15 sony headphones that last for yearsBT is just another thing to fuss with for no apparent benefit, I have an assortment of BT crap that won’t connect consistently.
Whatever convenience BT might offer is negated by the time wasted learning the intricacies of the ever changing APPs [software]
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
just make the phone larger and fill the empty space with battery
danc4498@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Probably not a popular thing to say on here, but I think you’ve lost the battle for the earphone jack. It probably just requires way too much real estate to be practical on a modern day cell phone.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 10 hours ago
Exactly this, that's a lot of space taken up to connect what 4 analog wires?
That's insanity when a AUX to Usb-C converter does the job
wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 4 hours ago
Honestly feels criminal with how bloated companies have made these phones yet they cheap out on a headphone jack.