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Comment on Spotify caught hosting hundreds of fake podcasts that advertise selling drugs
iasmina2007@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
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LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
weaselsrippedmyflesh@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Not OP, but probably all of those still register, only he was using lossless audio as an example of how it’s not even that good comparing with other platforms who actually do better by the artists they host. As in, a lot of people are willing to turn a blind eye to unethical practices if the product is great, but it’s not even that great, comparing with other existing services. Whether or not people actually do care about lossless audio is a different thing, though.
MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The recommendations are hard to beat, but I hate how these moderns treating platforms make you a passive listener. My most enjoyable music listening days were when I actively managed my music collection.
iasmina2007@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[deleted]Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I do a bit of both. For awhile I was relying just on algorithms but switching to primarily active management the past few years has really been invigorating. Renewed my excitement for music. When I do use algorithms to discover some new stuff it’s being fed mostly from my own curationnwhich is so much better of getting stuck in a loop where the algorithm recommends something, you select some favorites and then it recommends off those. This starts to really dull and homogonize your library after awhile.
MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I need to go back to this, never should’ve given it up honestly.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
The number of people with the audio equipment needed to even notice a difference with lossless audio is a rounding error, especially on their phones using their AirPods/galaxy buds.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You don’t need that much special equipment to tell the difference. I have a lil shitty Jelly Star. I can tell the difference between Spotify’s High and a FLAC from bandcamp with it’s speaker, Bluetooth headphones (Sony Link Buds) and my Car speakers.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As audiophile as I am (own very expensive (> 1k) headphones for instance) and additionally I’m musician/producer.
I don’t think you can hear the difference between 320kbit bitrate vs flac in a blindtest (this is important, to avoid biasing yourself). I could notice what was a 128kbit mp3 and flac in a blindtest and already that was minimal (and is likely mostly related to the 16k cut-off of 128kbit mp3), but 320kbit, nope…
If you notice a difference it likely has to do with different mastering/LUFS etc. not the compression artifacts themself.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I don’t think Spotify’s High bitrate is as good as it says it is, though. That’s what I’m getting at. Sort of like how YouTube’s encoding for whatever setting you pick is never as good as a local file with the same specs.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
You really can’t.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You absolutely can. It’s not massive. But Spotify does sound muddy in comparison. And I’m not some crazy audiophile either. But I’ve definitely heard more clarity in some of my favourite songs and noticed certain powers of them that I’ve never noticed before just because I was using a FLAC vs using Spotify where I used to listen to it.
At a certain point, you’re right your not going to notice a difference on shitty speakers but there’s something about Spotify’s lossy compression that even at high you’ll notice the difference between the two.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I use it because it’s free and tolerable when modded (on pc at least), and a lot of my favorite artists drop there. I get to check new releases, and if something isn’t there I’ll check other platforms. I will never pay for spotify on principle though.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I am interested in alternatives. I stopped paying for Spotify when they were pushing Joe Rogan so hard, and YouTube Music isn’t really doing it for me for a variety of reasons. Any good suggestions?
prongs@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
This is a bigger change, but I switched to Bandcamp and listen to music I own. I like the process of finding music I like and saving it to my wishlist, and I mass-purchase whenever Bandcamp Friday comes around so the artist gets the whole paycheck.
It depends how much music you listen to though, and how much variety you need day to day. Realise it’s a bit more involved than algorithm based streaming but I also feel a lot more like I’ve built a library just for me.
restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I would also recommend Pandora. I’ve had a family plan for years so I don’t know for sure but there used to be a free (ad supported) tier that you could check out. And to reiterate comments from above, custom playlists and song/album play on demand is available (though some tracks are only available in discovery mode).
zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Really? This is your concern about Spotify?
Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Seems like a more important concern than some people using Spotify to sell drugs
Smoolak@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I second this.
JWBananas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Clearly most people care more about other factors than they do about audio quality that isn’t even discernable through their Bluetooth earbuds.
solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
i dumped spotify because they raised the price so they could include podcasts that i couldn’t give less of a rat’s ass about. also the ai bullshit and the refusal to allow me to block artists. spotify can get fucked
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Streaming sites not including the option to block content is frustrating.
I remember when Netflix let you hide individual movies so they didn’t clutter up the categories. When it was removed there was a rumor that giving it a low score would hide it but that never worked for me. Don’t even remember the other services offering an option to hide stuff.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 weeks ago
You can still do that on YouTube.
JordanZ@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Raised the price for podcasts, raised the price for audiobooks. Guys, I just want a music service…
Then as you mentioned…no ability to block artists or songs. I honestly believe that not listening to a particular song by an artist you otherwise like made it shows up even more in radio/shuffle play. Can’t you guys clue into the fact that I skip that track EVERY time you start playing it.
People made alternate desktop clients to customize the homepage cause they were unwilling. The mobile app wasn’t so lucky. Again…my home page doesn’t need to be podcasts, audio books and artists I’ve never listened to but are obviously being boosted but paid promotions.
When they started throwing up full page dialog popups recommending the most ridiculous not even close to what I listen to content multiple times a listening session…I was out. Didn’t just cancel premium, deleted the account and uninstalled the apps. I’m not paying you to actively annoy the shit out of me.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I never moved from pandora to Spotify and could never find a good reason to.
I realize I’m a decade out of the loop, but what did it do better?
solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
i never used pandora–is it true you can’t make your own playlists? that would be a no go for me. i switched to tidal and have no complaints
Vespair@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I’m so confused, I’m a Spotify user and there are multiple artists I’ve selected “don’t play this artist” on that Spotify blocks for me; it won’t even play those artists when I click playlists including them.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
it’s the social features and the network effect. if you want to make a playlist and share it with your friends the easiest way to get them to listen to it is to host it on spotify. also blends, collaborative playlist, jams, and now listening all provide the illusion of connection through a shared listening experience. and it’s not so much that these things are better than what we used to have for sharing music, it’s that corporations have all killed our ways of sharing music. that’s what they really hated about groove shark. artists made more money in the groove shark era, but umg, sony, and warner didn’t control how we shared on it.
Psythik@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Yeah seriously; unless you’re an audiophile who spends extra on quality headphones, your Bluetooth buds are probably using the SBC codec, which cuts off frequencies at 16kHz and thus is hardly better than listening to a 128Kbps MP3. (In Android you can see what codec your headphones are using by going into the developer options.)
And to be honest, if you care enough about sound quality to spend extra on the high res tier in your streaming service of choice, you’re probably using wired headphones. Audiophiles don’t fuck with Bluetooth.
aubertlone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ldac only for me.
Nah I have a few different ones and aptx adaptive is pretty solid.
It’s funny because it wasn’t until I started producing music and driving samples that I realized 320kbps mp3 IS NOT the same nor is it comparable to lossless audio
As for the whole “audiophile” thing I don’t even know what to make of that.
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Just switched from iPhone to Android. If your Bluetooth headphones support aptx you can definitely hear the difference
Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Just the other day I was listening to the new Linkin Park album on Spotify in a car with a friend (no fancy speaker system)
We both thought it sounded kinda low quality so we switched to youtube and the improvement was instantly noticable to us. Spotify just sucks. At least if you are used to HQ audio
JWBananas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Happened to me too with the same album. Then I remembered I hadn’t configured the audio quality after switching to a new phone. So I did that, and then it was fine.
Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Hm could be that. Though vaguely remember he checked the Spotify quality setting before going on Youtube
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It’s actually worse than lossless being discernable or not - people cannot reliably tell between high-quality compressed audio and lossless audio. This has been studied to oblivion - the jury is out, there’s no more discussion to be had on the subject.