The board needs to remove Elon today.
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jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
In posts on X following the incident, Tesla CEO Elon Musk called the incidents “terrorism” and said the company “just makes electric cars and has done nothing to deserve these evil attacks.”
OK buddy.
fitgse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
yep. I don’t get why they haven’t. He’s tanking their shit badly.
ch00f@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They just paid fucking 60 billion dollars to him to keep him from quitting. Maybe a smidge of sunk cost fallacy.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Sigh. Fuck Elon. I hope the piece of shit goes bankrupt. Probably wont happen though :/
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good. Let them drown with their sinking ship. They enabled his power grab in the first place and decided something as perverted and absurd as granting a single man $60 billion. Let this be a lesson in history books.
Serinus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Did that actually get paid out? Last I heard the judge said no, multiple times.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
the honeymoon from the election is just wearing off.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
the board are his handpicked toadies that have him a bonus despite tesla losing money
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
You can remove him from the board but he’ll still have all of his shares. And I’d bet he’s not really doing much as Tesla these days anyway.
ripcord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not much except getting their dealerships torched.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
My point was that they’re doing what they’re doing to hurt Elon. Removing Elon from the board does not prevent them from hurting Elon.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Even if they do, protests and boycotts need to continue past it. A lot of his wealth is in Tesla stock, and he’s going to benefit from the shadows if the public moves on and TSLA recovers.
ragingdachshund@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
It’s not terrorism. They were just peacefully touring the dealerships. Just like January 6. Peacefully touring.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Evil attacks”, like we’re killing puppies, or something.
It’s vandalism against machines, and the only victim here is the insurance companies.
Furbag@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Evil attacks”, like we’re killing puppies, or something.
Leave the puppy killing to the expert, Kristi Noem.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Also some people who bought teslas before all this happened having their rates go up. And the people who had their Tesla vandalized or totaled who didn’t get a good enough payout from insurance to replace it (if you’ve ever dealt with insurance you know you’re not getting the actual value back). I’m not saying I’m losing sleep over it, but still.
I had a friend buy a Tesla after Elon was talking about buying twitter but before one could objectively say he went full fash, and I told him he’d be embarrassed about it eventually. He went through with it because it had X features or whatnot. Do I feel bad for him? A little, but it’s not like the writing wasn’t on the wall. Obviously once Elon was with Trump 24/7 he said he regretted it, but it’s a bit late for that.
There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, so it sucks to see consumers be targeted, but I understand. I have a phone and I’m sure somewhere child slavery was involved. Does that make me a bad person? Yes, the answer is objectively yes. We’re all making shitty choices every day and if one day someone decides to draw the line and I’m on the wrong side of it, I guess I’ll just have to cope. That’s kinda how I feel about it. So Tesla owners are being harmed too, but I don’t know that I’d call them victims of anything except their own decisions. I’m not sure they deserve it all equally, but we all kinda suck so whatever.
samus12345@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
The cars suck, but he’s right that the company hasn’t done anything to deserve this. He’s the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they’ll feel about any business he owns.
Terrorism, though? Hardly. It’s protest. He’s the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature
Pretty much the definition of terrorism. Doesn’t necessarily make it wrong.
Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Property damage is not violence and nonviolent protests are not terrorism. They will claim it is. They are lying.
kofe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gonna disagree with the anarchist viewpoint because physical damage to inanimate objects can still cause PTSD, battered spouse syndrome with enough incidents over time, etc. It’s the threat of danger that matters.
Just because it doesn’t fit your ideological view doesn’t mean people are lying by looking at it differently
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Every definition that I can find says it is but maybe you’d like to provide one that says otherwise.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yes, but that definition also defines… basically all the most heinous things that Trump and those around him have done in the last… 5 years, lets say? … as terrorism.
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Remember CPAC, 2022?
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
You can make that argument but you’re not arguing that burning down a Tesla dealership isn’t terrorism, you’re just making a whataboutism.
MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Rather it is vandalism, because Terrorism, its acts cause terror in the population.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
nobody is terrified, except for billionaires, like crybaby musk.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I don’t understand what you wrote but the two are not mutually exclusive.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Spraypaint a traffic camera, violence.
So what I’m hearing is, if you burn Tesla because their CEO is a scum-sucking useless billionaire who is dismantling the social services that you and your family rely on (and paid for!), in order to cut taxes for the 1%, your a terrorist.
If you set shit on fire because you like to watch stuff burn, you’re just a plain ol’ arsonist.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
If that’s what you’re hearing, you should have your ears checked. It doesn’t matter who the person is our what they do. It only matters what the perpetrator does.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not sure why some people are disagreeing - it for sure fits the definition. I’m not exactly sad about it - Musk is helping to rip apart the country and I have a hard time blaming people who feel that helping to rip apart one of his companies is about all they can do - but committing arson to further an ideology is terrorism.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
They don’t like the connotation. Which is fair. Nuance is complicated and if you say “yes, we’re terrorists” that’s going to be wielded against “your people” in the court of public opinion.
samus12345@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
With this definition, a government can do anything it wants without it being terrorism because it gets to decide what’s criminal. So while it may be terrorism by definition, that definition is pretty useless without a lot of context.
sharkyfox@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
This is resisting, not furthering, ideological goals.
Could you state the ideological goal of these attacks?
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
It’s the same thing.
Seriously? You need that explained to you? How much time do you have? Eccentric billionaire seeks to destroy democracy, manipulate the public, oppress and marginalize it’s people, consolidate wealth in the elite class, dismantle federal institutions that check him, defy the law, for starters. You haven’t heard about any of this? The “ideological goal” is to end it.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
fuckelon
Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s property damage that was done specifically to avoid hurting people. By that interpretation, Banksy could also be classified as a terrorist.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Man that’s some wild mental gymnastics.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The cars are poorly designed to the point of being dangerous. They deserve it a little.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 weeks ago
This is terrorism. Storming the capitol is clearly not.