This whole question rubs me the wrong way, like “Why do we teach women to protect themselves instead of teaching men not to rape?”. There’s not a big control panel somewhere that “society” can use to change everyone’s behavior. People are individuals. Some of them will do bad things to others because it benefits them, no matter what they’re taught. If you want to avoid being victimized, you have to be vigilant against that.
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Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because the people who take advantage, already know that they shouldn’t, and we aren’t going to politely convince them otherwise.
Might as well make it harder for them by warning others that they are out there.
I totally agree with the sentiment though. It’s a shame we have to, but until people can behave themselves, we need to be aware.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’ll notice only people who grow up in extremely safe societies complain about “teaching women to protect themselves instead of”. People that didn’t know why it’s an idiotic argument to have already.
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We we’re in a pretty damn safe society until a few days ago. But yeah you’re still right.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No we weren’t. There is no such thing as safe society. We don’t even have safe spaces. No matter where you go, what you do, what measurements you take, your safe space could instantly be destroyed by a guy with a gun, or a tornado, or an atomic bomb.
It could be your house, it could be a public place, it could be a government building. The politicians in charge are just a rotating set of faces who serve themselves.
ogmios@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Bingo.
The only people you actually end up reaching are people with good intentions who don’t need to hear it in the first place. “Stop taking advantage of people” is a message which can usually be dispensed only by force. The moral panic over “toxic masculinity” did very little to affect those who actually caused problems, but a great deal to disenfranchise those who would actually make bad actors stop taking advantage of others.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Yup. It is the same reason that the people who think the world is an episode of Steven Universe and that if we just show compassion toward the hate mongers that they will change their hearts.
Be good to one another. But also understand that there ARE bad people out there and that they deserve nothing but weary scorn.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Freaky ass weirdos need to stay they ass inside
Roll they ass up like a fresh pack of 'za
City is back up, it’s a must, we outsideMutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Protest day is the 5th at noon in your local downtown or better at your state capital building. Unfortunately it’s in the middle of a capitalist drone’s work day and I just found out today so I think it’s going to be a fail. Don’t let that stop you.
Soulg@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
capitalist drones workday
Can’t help but feel like this is derogatory towards people just trying to survive
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Although, now I’m thinking…
If we tell everyone that people are using X scam to get rich, then how many NEW assholes are convinced they could probably pull it off? Then Those guys come up with new schemes that we announce to everybody, which causes more people to think they should take up scamming.
Oh dear. I need to lie down.
ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 1 year ago
[deleted]hisao@ani.social 1 year ago
Being “social” often involves power dynamics games. Often that’s even part of the culture. Sometimes people who are not interested in that notice each other and proceed to their own comfy wavelength, but it’s not something I would expect in average “social group”.
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
The point is more why are we treating the symptom rather than the disease.
Hell yeah, great point
People who take advantage of others are manipulators and by definition that’s anti-social. Why is the system so broken that we can’t imprison scammers?
What the fuck, how is that your conclusion?
The “disease” is the lack of safety nets- a lack of education, resources, opportunities. “Anti-social” is a copout term to justify the status quo- to pathologize what are ultimately systemic failures manifested in the behavior of individuals. The disease is capitalism, and imprisoning people for “anti-social” behaviors is absolutely the wrong answer.
earphone843@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Huh? We can imprison scammers.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Is it tho? Trump basically lied and committed fraud all the way to the presidency.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Luigi convinced one…