Comment on There you go little guy

LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Narrowing roads and making them less straight also lowers speeding

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  • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For reasonable people yes, but those that go 30km/h over the speed limit every time don’t care and will always drive as fast as possible in those sections. I once met a guy who claimed to know down to the exact last km/h how fast he could drive until the car lost control in every single curve of a quite curvy road segment. Is it save to drive like that? Absolutely fucking not. Does he car(e)? Also absolutely fucking not.

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    • Malfeasant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Speed cameras also won’t stop someone like that. Though they might take nice pictures of the wreck.

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    • NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      People like that are gonna cause accidents anyways.

      Studies have shown that accidents are more likely to be severe/fatal on wide, straight roads.

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• Skyrmir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I dunno if you’ve tried, but I’m here to tell ya, cobble stone streets will absolutely stop speeding really quick.

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  • Norkos@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nope, just observed it on this weekend on a cobble stone street in very bad condition. It was a 30 km/h zone and other drivers where more about 50.

    While I, who only had a driver’s license for 3 months, tried not to break the suspension of my car (obviously unfounded).

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    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So it doesn’t work because your sample size = 1?

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• Hildegarde@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The most viable alternative to traffic stops is a narrow chicane with solid bollards on either side, although oher traffic calming devices are available.

  Traffic cameras exist to generate revenue, not to make the streets safer. Intersections with red light cameras almost always have shorter yellow lights, to increase revenue while making the intersection less safe.

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  • NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Traffic Cameras can and do reduce speeding if implemented properly

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    • Malfeasant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What is “implemented properly” and how often does it happen?

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    • Hildegarde@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They are less effective than traffic calming.

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      • NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I agree, but I’m pointing out that they do indeed help if implemented correctly

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  • frazorth@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No. Traffic cameras in your area are there to generate revenue.

    The camera being covered here is not at an intersection so your offtopic comment about revenue is irrelevant. This is a camera on a stretch of road where drivers usually speed, the cameras are painted bright yellow to make them obvious and do a far better job of getting people to slow for hazardous corners than a sign ever did.

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  • Vandals_handle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In California the duration of yellow is determined by a formula incorporating the roads speed limit. If yellow light duration is less than the formula would set, the traffic ticket is dismissed. I’m guessing most states have a similar law.

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    • Hildegarde@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, and and those laws are frequently violated to farm more tickets.

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      • Malfeasant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        And good luck getting a judge to hear your side of it. Not impossible, but then you’re missing a day of work for a maybe…

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      • Vandals_handle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Another reason for a dash cam.

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• Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How is this not “fuck the police” it’s a camera, controlled by the police, to surveil people.

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  • auzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It only surveils idiots who are speeding.

    Why is this not fuvk people who put pedestrians, cyclists and other drivers in danger

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    • Malfeasant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How do cameras make any difference?

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• theonetruedroid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lemmy users can believe in different things. We need differing opinions or it just stifles a website.

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• PlexSheep@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Those are different kinds of lemmings

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Better rule: when someone sabotaged surveillance state infrastructure, don’t post footage of them doing it

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  • archomrade@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lemmy try not to post crimes challenge - impossible. Granted, as far as crimes go, this one seems innocuous enough, but still.

    I’ve been told repeatedly on c/piracy that lemmy is just too small to attract the attention of law enforcement and three-letter agencies

    Paradoxically, I’ve also been told that lemmy is rife with state-sponsored troll farms, so…?

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• renzev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Shitposts!? On MY shitposting community!?? It’s more likely than you think!

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• Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  LaLuzDelSol (on Lemmy): thinks Lemmy is one person

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  • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I generalize ofc but those are definitely the prevailing viewpoints, which seem contradictory.

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why do I keep talking to myself and contradicting every other thing I say?

    (Taking this to its logical conclusion, in case I forget why I wrote this when I read it later and feel like arguing with myself about it)

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Speed traps are just a tool to further monetize and rent seek car culture in the absence of public transit.

  You can, in fact, hate both cars and infrastructure that exists solely to make using a car more expensive.

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  • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They do not exist solely to collect revenue, although they certainly do that as well. They have been proven time and again to reduce speeding and fatalities, as other commenters in this thread have pointed out. As far as using traffic cameras to reduce police forces, I haven’t been able to find that exactly, but there are plenty of examples of deploying traffic cameras to work around a shortage of officers which works out to the same thing.

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    • archomrade@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You know what else would reduce police forces? Eliminating car traffic entirely.

      Cops spend the most time on ordinary traffic stops.

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• WordBox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Source on speeding cameras working for anything other than revenue generation?

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  • NENathaniel@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    heraldnet.com/…/after-traffic-cameras-went-in-eve…

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  • Nurgus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In the UK (Where the op picture is) the police cannot collect the revenue from cameras and other fines. It all goes to the gov so the cops have zero financial incentive to install speed cameras.

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    • SSJMarx@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      money goes to the government

      cops get their money from the government

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      • Nurgus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes but they get the same amount regardless of the fines. The police see no direct financial connection.

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  • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20927736/

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  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If that were the case, they would be hidden.

    They are a deterrent for speeding most of all.

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    • remotedev@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The ones around here, everyone just slows down getting to that intersection, and then picks up speed again after crossing through

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      • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s the main purpose of that cams. Slow drivers on strategic spots that have more chances of accidents.

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  • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    cochrane.org/…/INJ_do-speed-cameras-reduce-road-t…

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      More crashes and deaths means less cars and people.

      Double win for the environment.

      Environmentalists should be encouraging speeding and drink driving.

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      • Morphit@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You know the person who had the greatest positive impact on the environment on this planet? Genghis Khan, because he massacred forty million people.

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      • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Leans into the window

        You think y’all can get this thing home?

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