I can’t believe I have to defend reddit for once.
This “article,” if you can call it that, might as well have just been a tweet. There is 0 other relevant information like what the patents actually are.
Nokia tells Reddit it might be infringing on Nokia's patents.
Submitted 8 months ago by KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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RampageDon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
stankmut@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It basically is a tweet. It’s a quick post, which is designed for The Verge writers to write a quick thought or link to a story using a website they control instead of posting it on Elon’s website.
RampageDon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Right but then why would I bother going to the verge anymore, when they link to a pay walled website? Why not go directly to that website? I am by no means advocating Twitter, but a tweet makes sense because it might reach an audience it normally wouldn’t.
simplejack@lemmy.world 8 months ago
These comments are kind of silly. There are 0 details about the patient claim, but a bunch of people are picking sides based on how they feel about a brand name. Classic Lemmy.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Classic?
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Classic.
pastermil@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
patient claim
So we’re talking healthcare business now?
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That ‘article’ is garbage. The headline is more imformative than the actual article.
Nokia, of course, leaned into, ahem, patent licensing and networking equipment as its…
Who puts "ahem, in an informational article?
piecat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Difference is most companies just want to hold onto the patent to prevent competition
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Why are we mad about an active tech company protecting their IP?
Patent trolls buy up more patents than any company could ever be able to use in actual products in order to make money sueing everyone under the sun.
Nokia is a telecom company that does their own RnD to this day, how tf does this make them a patent troll, unless this is over something dumb and frivolous, which we don’t know yet.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
We don’t even know what the suit is about, so I don’t know how anyone can pick a side about anything.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I’ll be ready to flip the second it comes out if this suit is BS.
But I’m siding with Nokia Oyj here because they have a decent track record of actually doing the legwork on their tech, advancing the science, and sharing that with the industry through sane licensing.
Also the company is one of the success stories of my country, so maybe I’m biased, but then that hasn’t stopped me from hating exploitative pieces of shit like Rovio and Supercell.
thantik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Nokia is a husk of a former tech company that was gutted by Microsoft for anti competitive reasons.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
They sold their mobile branch. The brand of which eventually ended up with HMD global, which now makes Nokia branded phones.
Nokia Oyj is a telecom tech company, as in the hardware and standards behind wireless communication tech. They never stopped.
Bezier@suppo.fi 8 months ago
That is entirely incorrect. Microsoft doesn’t own the company and never did. MS bought the phone division and a license for the name to go with it.
I tried to look up what this notice is actually about, but there’s nothing out there yet. So can’t say much being a patent troll “arm” either.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
And reddit is a husk of a former tech company who doesn’t even have a good excutfor why they’ve gotten consistently worse over the last decade.
flumph@programming.dev 8 months ago
I hate patent trolls, but I will say “it couldn’t have happened to a nicer company”. I hope they both go broke on legal fees.
foggy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Genuine question: does Nokia have a bad history with patent trolling?
To me Nokia is just that old cell phone company that never quite made it even though they were iconic.
reddig33@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They’ve been bought and sold to the point that all that’s left is their patent portfolio. Their current business strategy appears to be “patent troll”. They’ve been holding industry telecommunications methods hostage instead of negotiating fair use fees.
ripcord@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How does their current logo “remind” is about their focus on patent licensing and telecom…?
Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Seems like they switched to this logo:
It does kind of feel like the logo of a consultancy/legal/finance group to me. But I could also imagine this looking decent when embossed onto a phone…
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Their logo is trash, but it’s still so much better than the damned “KNI” (KIA) logo I see all around town.
CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Both sides suck here but I have to side with Reddit over patent trolls. Nokia, what a disgrace you are these days if you have to resort to patent trolling. You used to be cool. That said, if this hurts Reddit’s IPO then I’ll be happy anyways.
4am@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Enforcing a patent is not necessarily patent trolling. Is Nokia’s sole purpose to collect patent for things they have no intention or capability to create and sell? That’s the definition of a patent troll. Nokia doesn’t exist solely to collect patents and make their revenue by suing actual business.
We got people out here mad at shit they don’t even understand…
thantik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If you’re enforcing a patent that would have been come up with other people in the same field, then the patent is invalid, many of us would consider going after people with an invalid patent – patent trolling.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There’s a difference between patent trolling and protecting their patents.
Provided Nokia just won a case, it’s extremely doubtful they would fall into the “troll” catagory.
Why do you think they’ve become a disgrace?
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Side with Reddit about what? We don’t even know what the lawsuit is about.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I can’t believe I have to defend reddit for once.
I’m not rushing to pick a side until someone posts the actual patient claim. Both of these parties suck, and I’m not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Sad to see Nokia reduced to a patent troll.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No one posted what the suit is about. I don’t know how we can make that claim right now.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Given it’s reddit I can’t see how it could be about anything but software patents.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Nah, fuck spez. Patent trolls suck, but I hope they all go down together.
sepi@piefed.social 8 months ago
LET THEM FIGHT!
bitwolf@lemmy.one 8 months ago
How can they flex a networking parent on a SaaS? Doesn’t that fall under some clause that’s standard for doing business?
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What are the patents?
magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 months ago
Thank you for asking that question. That was the primary reason I was going to read the article. Since it doesn’t explain that, I won’t bother.
casmael@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Presumably patents relating to the implementation of bad management strategies
stankmut@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s not mentioned in the filing, so we can only speculate.
That’s all we’ve got to go on.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Good question.
db2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can’t seem to find that anywhere, but there’s a totally organic and not at all sus post on Reddit calling Nokia patent trolls.
homesnatch@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Nokia has a patent on making things out of bricks, and the CEO of Reddit has a brick for a head. Case closed if you ask me.