Nokia tells Reddit it might be infringing on Nokia's patents.

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• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What are the patents?

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  • magnetosphere@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thank you for asking that question. That was the primary reason I was going to read the article. Since it doesn’t explain that, I won’t bother.

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    • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Presumably patents relating to the implementation of bad management strategies

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  • stankmut@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not mentioned in the filing, so we can only speculate.

    …on March 18, 2024, Nokia Technologies sent us a letter indicating they believed that Reddit infringes certain of their patents. We will evaluate their claims.

    That’s all we’ve got to go on.

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good question.

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can’t seem to find that anywhere, but there’s a totally organic and not at all sus post on Reddit calling Nokia patent trolls.

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  • homesnatch@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nokia has a patent on making things out of bricks, and the CEO of Reddit has a brick for a head. Case closed if you ask me.

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• RampageDon@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This “article,” if you can call it that, might as well have just been a tweet. There is 0 other relevant information like what the patents actually are.

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  • stankmut@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It basically is a tweet. It’s a quick post, which is designed for The Verge writers to write a quick thought or link to a story using a website they control instead of posting it on Elon’s website.

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    • RampageDon@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right but then why would I bother going to the verge anymore, when they link to a pay walled website? Why not go directly to that website? I am by no means advocating Twitter, but a tweet makes sense because it might reach an audience it normally wouldn’t.

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• simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  These comments are kind of silly. There are 0 details about the patient claim, but a bunch of people are picking sides based on how they feel about a brand name. Classic Lemmy.

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  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Classic?

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    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Classic.

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  • pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    patient claim

    So we’re talking healthcare business now?

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  • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That ‘article’ is garbage. The headline is more imformative than the actual article.

    Nokia, of course, leaned into, ahem, patent licensing and networking equipment as its…

    Who puts "ahem, in an informational article?

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    • piecat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Difference is most companies just want to hold onto the patent to prevent competition

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why are we mad about an active tech company protecting their IP?

  Patent trolls buy up more patents than any company could ever be able to use in actual products in order to make money sueing everyone under the sun.

  Nokia is a telecom company that does their own RnD to this day, how tf does this make them a patent troll, unless this is over something dumb and frivolous, which we don’t know yet.

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We don’t even know what the suit is about, so I don’t know how anyone can pick a side about anything.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ll be ready to flip the second it comes out if this suit is BS.

      But I’m siding with Nokia Oyj here because they have a decent track record of actually doing the legwork on their tech, advancing the science, and sharing that with the industry through sane licensing.

      Also the company is one of the success stories of my country, so maybe I’m biased, but then that hasn’t stopped me from hating exploitative pieces of shit like Rovio and Supercell.

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  • thantik@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nokia is a husk of a former tech company that was gutted by Microsoft for anti competitive reasons.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They sold their mobile branch. The brand of which eventually ended up with HMD global, which now makes Nokia branded phones.

      Nokia Oyj is a telecom tech company, as in the hardware and standards behind wireless communication tech. They never stopped.

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    • Bezier@suppo.fi ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That is entirely incorrect. Microsoft doesn’t own the company and never did. MS bought the phone division and a license for the name to go with it.

      I tried to look up what this notice is actually about, but there’s nothing out there yet. So can’t say much being a patent troll “arm” either.

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    • magnetosphere@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s sad.

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    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And reddit is a husk of a former tech company who doesn’t even have a good excutfor why they’ve gotten consistently worse over the last decade.

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• flumph@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate patent trolls, but I will say “it couldn’t have happened to a nicer company”. I hope they both go broke on legal fees.

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  • foggy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Genuine question: does Nokia have a bad history with patent trolling?

    To me Nokia is just that old cell phone company that never quite made it even though they were iconic.

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    • reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’ve been bought and sold to the point that all that’s left is their patent portfolio. Their current business strategy appears to be “patent troll”. They’ve been holding industry telecommunications methods hostage instead of negotiating fair use fees.

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• ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How does their current logo “remind” is about their focus on patent licensing and telecom…?

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  • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Seems like they switched to this logo:

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    It does kind of feel like the logo of a consultancy/legal/finance group to me. But I could also imagine this looking decent when embossed onto a phone…

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    • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some lines were taken already?

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Their logo is trash, but it’s still so much better than the damned “KNI” (KIA) logo I see all around town.

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• CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Both sides suck here but I have to side with Reddit over patent trolls. Nokia, what a disgrace you are these days if you have to resort to patent trolling. You used to be cool. That said, if this hurts Reddit’s IPO then I’ll be happy anyways.

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  • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Enforcing a patent is not necessarily patent trolling. Is Nokia’s sole purpose to collect patent for things they have no intention or capability to create and sell? That’s the definition of a patent troll. Nokia doesn’t exist solely to collect patents and make their revenue by suing actual business.

    We got people out here mad at shit they don’t even understand…

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    • thantik@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’re enforcing a patent that would have been come up with other people in the same field, then the patent is invalid, many of us would consider going after people with an invalid patent – patent trolling.

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  • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s a difference between patent trolling and protecting their patents.

    Provided Nokia just won a case, it’s extremely doubtful they would fall into the “troll” catagory.

    Why do you think they’ve become a disgrace?

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Side with Reddit about what? We don’t even know what the lawsuit is about.

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• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I can’t believe I have to defend reddit for once.

  I’m not rushing to pick a side until someone posts the actual patient claim. Both of these parties suck, and I’m not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

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• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sad to see Nokia reduced to a patent troll.

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No one posted what the suit is about. I don’t know how we can make that claim right now.

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    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Given it’s reddit I can’t see how it could be about anything but software patents.

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• Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nah, fuck spez. Patent trolls suck, but I hope they all go down together.

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• sepi@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  LET THEM FIGHT!

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• bitwolf@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How can they flex a networking parent on a SaaS? Doesn’t that fall under some clause that’s standard for doing business?

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