I genuinely dislike TikTok (might be just old-man-shaking-his-fists-at-the-sky syndrome), but a complete ban on an app like that seems uninformed and quite the overreach. I think banning it on government devices is a good move, and I also think having everyone make informed decisions on who they give their personal information to is paramount (in this case, tin foil hat or no, you’re likely giving it to the CCP), but this seems like a clear case of a bunch of old timers making a pretty uninformed decision based on knee-jerk reactions to public opinion.
TikTok faces calls for ban amid claims of anti-Israel ‘indoctrination’
Submitted 8 months ago by Wanderer@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
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podperson@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Wanderer@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I kind of agree.
There should be ways to sign up without the huge over reach of data. Education is also a must.
But then after that the Internet should be free, it shouldn’t be controlled by big daddy government.
DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
This old man is now into TikTok. It’s much better than when it was music.ly
Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Absolutely not saying you’re right or wrong at all. But I’m curious, does you’re opinion change at all considering that the majority of users on tik tok are under the age of 18?
Vespair@lemm.ee 8 months ago
This just simply isn’t true.
Granted, this is some random bullshit website, but they do list their sources, and they claim
“1 in 4 TikTok users are under 20 years old”
25% is hugely different than *the majority of users."
Tiktok isn’t a kid’s app, has never been a kid’s app, and while it’s popular with kids if you are an adult with normal adult patterns you aren’t going to get served minor accounts to follow unless you are actively seeking that or have interests or hobbies with an big younger skewing (such as if you follow the #minecraft hashtag, I would imagine).
m13@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Heaven forbid the kids should be against the outright mass murder of unarmed men, women, and (mostly) children, the targeted killing of journalists, doctors, and destruction of all hospitals, the blocking of aid, forced starvation, and targeted killing of people in designated “safe zones”.
Where has their sense of bloodthirsty genocide and outright cruelty gone?
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Losing the ability to Censor pro Palestinian content on social media has severely changed the views of our younger Generation.
Its clear that this is about the control of “freedom of speech”.
Ironic that we are now censoring the CCP
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Social media are inherently about censorship being a coherent policy and not a personal choice of every single webmaster.
TikTok is something “good” only in this particular case (Palestine).
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s true but it is a sign that the speech we believe is so free is actually not free whatsoever.
When a platform doesn’t censor, or censors different things than we want them to censor, they get banned.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Trump tried to ban Tiktok because it was Chinese owned and it got rejected. But now it’s getting banned, why? What’s changed?
Is it actually because it is showing bad things Israel has done or has something else happened? I’m genuinely out of the loop and confused.
echo64@lemmy.world 8 months ago
- it’s not owned and controlled by Americans. This makes American billionaires unhappy, and the liked of Zuckerberg would be very happy for the removal of comepetiton.
- America has a sinophobia problem, I know a lot of Americans here don’t see it, and get mad if you bring it up, but from the outside looking in, it’s very obvious.
- Policy makers in America seem scared of young people being politically motivated, and a lot of that is happening via tiktok. It stopped the red wave, it’s now impacting democratic polling, they’re losing control.
ImWaitingForRetcons@lemm.ee 8 months ago
These points are all absolutely correct, and generally follow a trend of protectionism sweeping across the globe, but there’s also a genuine concern about how Tiktok shapes public POV based on CCP decisions(for example, suppressing content about the excessive Covid lockdown, the Uyghur and Tibetan genocide, and suppression of Hui Muslims, Hong Kong and other minorities in China).
Wanderer@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Occupy Wall Street and Opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) genuinely scared the shit out of them.
I had so much hope for the Internet at that time. But since then it’s turned to horseshit.
FunkPhenomenon@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
that 2nd point… I think it really depends on where you live in America. the west coast states are heavily asian influenced - Chinese expats or people of Chinese descent are a significant population percentage.
Gigan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Trump was right, people just didnt want to admit it.
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Right because its chinese owned? What is wrong with that? Or is it only okay when a white western dude owns the company?
PatFussy@lemm.ee 8 months ago
They should have banned it years ago when the question of data security came into question. Tik Tok is brain poison, more than regular internet dosage. It’s cocomelon for adolescents.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I have never used TikTok and I never will but I still don’t think it’s the government’s job to decide which apps people are allowed to use and which ones not.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 8 months ago
As if we were so much more refined back when we were giving each other links to the goatse pic and writing Livejournals.
archomrade@midwest.social 8 months ago
Thank God the US doesn’t have any social media/propaganda distribution sites of their own to worry about, I can’t imagine there being more than just the Chinese owned one to deal with.
redfox@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Yeah, but money can’t control CCP like it controls the narrative here. That’s not acceptable… /s
turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Americans will silence anyone talking about Israeli war crimes.
Navarian@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Wild that the answer to young people being exposed to literal genocide and having an opinion about it, isn’t to try and do something about the genocide, but to call it indoctrination and try to ban it.
Make it make sense.
themurphy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They ban it because TikTok won’t do western propaganda exclusively. You can’t even say in the media that Israel is wrong, even if you use 100% documented sources.
FunkPhenomenon@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
do you feel the same way about other regulations? say, FDA mandates?
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Well, if you inherit a sum of money and just eat through it, it only lasts for so long.
If you inherit institutions and just expect them to be there, they only last for so long.
Life is violent and there’s no end of history.