I happily shelled out $600 for the first iPhone. But $3,500? For a V1 product that will get way better (and cheaper) in the next few years?
Cheaper? When has the next gen Apple product ever become cheaper?
All My Thoughts After 40 Hours in the Vision Pro — Wait But Why
Submitted 9 months ago by flumph@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://waitbutwhy.com/2024/02/vision-pro.html
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GigglyBobble@kbin.social 9 months ago
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 9 months ago
This is Apple Vision Pro so supposedly there’s going to be a non-pro version coming aswell. Would be odd if that wasn’t cheaper.
topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And an air version.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Apple will certainly have cheaper VR headsets coming. It’s just that they’ll likely also retain the expensive “Pro” line as well.
echodot@feddit.uk 9 months ago
It’s all on software, if the software gets better than it will do quite well but right now the software isn’t good enough to justify the hardware price. If they don’t improve that quickly it’s going to die on the vine.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 9 months ago
iPhone 3gs. 3rd gen tough, not second.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Well the iPhone se is cheaper than $600 today and that’s even with inflation.
Num10ck@lemmy.world 9 months ago
scale. they could only make 200,000 or so of these this batch because of Sony’s displays. When they can make tens of millions of them, the incredible fixed costs dither away. the first one costs billions. the billionth one costs
even apple isn’t usually 600% as expensive as its competition.
five82@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Where is that tldr bot when you actually need it?
7heo@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
(Personal annotations between parentheses)
- Person discovers VR at an arcade as a kid. Loves it.
- Person stays tuned, life happens.
- Person gets a Facebook Quest when it is out. Uses it daily. Loves it.
- Person eventually stops using it. Can’t say way exactly (Spoiler alert: lack of useful software, unpolished UX. Essentially, nothing beyond an awesome tech demo).
- Failing to recognize the aforementioned conclusion (cue “spoiler”), person wonders if VR has a “fatal flaw”.
- Person states that Apple unveiling new tech is akin to major social and political landmarks (moon landing, JFK assassination, 9/11, …).
- Person depicts touch-centric (without proper buttons) interface as revolutionary (Looks to me as if this person never used proper, non budget peripherals[^1] ).
- Person confuses scientific innovation (electric engines are hardly a revolution of this century) with (Tesla’s) marketing.
- Person states they were jaded by previous VR experiences, so the Apple Vision Pro (AVP) headset unveiling didn’t wow them.
- Person pre-orders one at 3.5k as soon as the pre-orders start anyway.
- Cognitive dissonance due to the price, and Apple (religious) marketing kicks in, and the person decides this is a life defining moment.
- Person goes back home with their newly acquired liability, and informs their spouse that they will be intentionally failing their duties for a week, due to the previous point.
- Person presents the product. At least, they don’t hide the battery pack (as Apple did), nor some of the other flaws.
- Person also adds that the headset takes biometric information from you (iris scan, hard pass).
- Person finally recognizes that UX is what was lacking all along.
- Person also states that the screen and eye tracking is beyond compare (for 3x the price of the Kura Gallium, I sure hope so…)
- Person also then recognizes that productivity apps were also missing all along, and that now, VR (magically) doesn’t have any fatal flaw anymore.
- Person makes predictions to justify their spending, stating that the number of apps will be multiplied by 1000, the technological improvement will also step up, and the price will (somehow!?) go down (original iPhone was USD 499 to 599, which is USD 750 to USD 900 in 2024 money, and that is lower than the price of the iPhone 15 models, which range from USD 800 to 1000 🙃)
[^1]: I personally hate touch centric interfaces with a passion, no one in their right mind, who understands the importance of haptic feedback and of absolute coordinate systems, explicit information presentation, would ever think touch-centric interfaces are a good idea.
jagoan@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Good human.
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I know this is a long TL;DR, but it is an outrageously long article, especially considering its substance)
Sidenote: the Wait but Why guy writes extremely long-form content.
If you’re looking for a quick opinion on something, it’s not him. He goes on mega tangents. I find it entertaining personally.
SharkAttak@kbin.social 9 months ago
and the person decides this is a life defining moment.
Yeah the moment where $3500 were spent for a
toygadget will surely be remebered for a lifetime..
And.. iris scan? I still have to decide if using my fingerprint to unlock my phone is worth it and secure, and they want my IRIS?Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I like tldr bot, but I enjoyed this far more. 👍
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 months ago
i skipped the first 50% lookin for the review, and it was still a slog getting through this.
hes got nothing new to say everyone else hasnt already said; 'cool', 'useless'.
Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 9 months ago
He has mix feelings about ir…that’s it
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 9 months ago
It’s about mixed reality after all
Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Ba dum tss lmao
Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The tech itself is cool I can’t lie. That is what is in all the sci fi of modern day. Nobody will use it regularly until what you have to wear is indistinguishable from regular accessories.
lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Same thought. I don’t really care much about the AR aspects of VR googles. I feel like I can see why people might game in them, etc, but for AR stuff I don’t really get the appeal. I did recently see a walkthrough of how to use and the features of the Apple Vision Pro and I can’t deny, the tech itself is really cool, I was pretty excited seeing the walkthrough. I just don’t really care about the applications of that tech yet.
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I get the sense XR headsets are more for corporate and military/police customers.
andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Here AR is a push to normalize VR in different settings where you need to pay attention to what’s outside your googles. Even in social ones - that’s why they tried these eyes on the surface. I’m sceptical some would wear them daily while doing chores, but I was also sceptical about people casually talking to their BT airpods on the street.
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 9 months ago
Interesting. I see it the other way around and believe it's only AR that'll be a real benefit (once it lasts indefinitely and is tiny or even implanted some time in the future). Pulling out your phone to navigate somewhere is cumbersome, for example.
Num10ck@lemmy.world 9 months ago
and millions will agree with that at first.
if you’re young and sexually available, then yes thats a big factor. if you’re settled down, in a comitted relationship, thats way down the list. i’d rather look nerdy while in a monet lazy river of wizard productivity than looking hawt while left behind in gotham.
DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 9 months ago
This is the “buncha bullshit before the recipe” of tech reviews, except the review also has a buncha bullshit mixed in so you cant find the “recipe” of it at a glance. Pass.
pythonoob@programming.dev 9 months ago
I scrolled through almost a fourth of it before I found the meat. He literally started the review by saying his story is buying a vision pro started in the 90s. My eyes couldn’t roll any harder. At least he admits he’s an apple simp. This is a review for apple simps by an apple simp
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 9 months ago
My eyes couldn’t roll any harder.
But if they were actually just eyes displayed on a screen over your face, then, with the right app, they could.
filister@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Another hardware that Apple will try to screw with their walled garden approach.
Candelestine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This author writes like an insufferable teenage cryptobro that got a little older and got a degree, but never actually grew up. I guess he’s after a very specific audience though.
Still though, slogging through that prose is slightly more annoying than a feisty chihuahua. Which itself is irritating, because I kinda want to know his actual opinions without having to dig them out of something full of endless paragraphs of his pointless bullshit fluff.
Ugh. Kids, if you write like that, you’re literally what Shakespeare was making fun of like, a bunch of centuries ago, with that whole “brevity is the soul of wit” char. He was viciously mocking you, a dozen-plus generations ago. Just get your point out.
JoMomma@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Woah there Webster, that is like the Dictionary calling the thesaurus thicc
Candelestine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
See, that’s good. He could write like that.
halva@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
At least their rant is fun to read
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s like the thesaurus calling the dictionary voluptuous, curvaceous, buxom.
otp@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I thought this was a parody of the article and the article would be wordy and edgy.
The article wasn’t just wordy. I had to scroll back up to see if I was still scrolling through the same article…lol
proper@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I had a friend who would say “to make a long, drawn-out, wordy, and boring story a little less long, drawn-out, wordy and boring…”