Submitted 8 months ago by Olap@lemmy.world to startrek@startrek.website
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Last season for DISCO, will we see it finally grow a beard and everyone be raging no 6?
This is the only ST spin-off I don’t really like. I couldn’t put my finger to it, until someone pointed out that ST was and always had been competence porn. This isn’t and that’s apparently what I’m missing.
For me it was just the emotional tone. I only watched the first 5 episodes, but one of the things that makes Star Trek enjoyable for me is its optimism about the future. Discovery was really bleak (at least to start) and I couldn’t keep watching it. I’ve heard it gets better, so maybe I should give it another shot.
It only gets worse. Don’t do this to yourself.
It doesn’t get better
I definitely gets better, I had to force myself to get through most the first season and pretty much ignored all the Klingon subtitled conversations. The mood really picks up and is enjoyable once Pike gets involved.
Every thread about Discovery absolutely HAS to be full of people saying they don’t like it. Like, great, okay, we heard you for the first five years since it came on the air. We get it. Why are you still so obsessed with it that you have to make sure everyone knows your opinion that it sucks whenever it comes up?
I mean I could name many shows or franchises that I don’t enjoy, but I don’t make a point to jump into the very thread about them and whine about it. Move on! It’s okay to not like things! You don’t have to keep watching it! You have my permission to do something else!
Aren't you making a point of whining about this? Shouldn't you move on? It's okay to do other things! You have our permission!
If nothing else, this shows that Paramount does not understand us. They’re dropping this a day before a Trek holiday, and no mention of first contact at all.
I’m hopeful that they fire up the hype machine as we get closer to the premiere date - you don’t want to start too early.
But we’ll see. There are many reasons not to have a lot of faith in the current Paramount regime.
Wait what?! I THOUGHT IT ENDED ALREADY!!?
Bonus trek for you!
Season 4 was my favorite season, mostly because the big galaxy shattering threat was solved by standing in the shuttle bay talking to aliens.
Not just aliens. Alien, aliens.
While hardly a first for Star Trek, it’s always a treat when alien-looking, and alien-acting, aliens show up.
The season had a good pace, but in my heart, I wanted more. I really feel like it would have made a fun (if not nerdy) season if we had a few more episodes decoding mysteries and getting to know this new culture and species.
Not just aliens. Alien, aliens.
Yes! Glad to see others out there on the same page as me. DSC Season 4 was one of my favorites of any Trek series, and I’m hoping five can continue on with a similar vibe.
When do the Predators show up? :p
That’s what I really loved about the season.
That’s nice, I hope we’ll get a better story and not the 5th Galactic civilization ending threat in a row this time.
Keep hoping!
Never understood the hate, but after season 2 I felt like the story went shit.
Really? For me, Season 3 was when it finally stopped sucking (as much), and S4 was good. The only thing that made S2 bearable was Pike, and them buddying up with Space Hitler put me off until S4.
Tbh I’m not sure anymore exactly where it went trash for me, but somewhere around S2-S3. I liked when it was a bit more low scale and not so much over the top
LET’S FLY
How did this get renewed?
I would love a Star Trek episode where everyone has beards.
You want them to go to the mirror universe AGAIN?!
I feel like the mirror universe was such an odd choice to be the central plot device of season 1 part 2. These were kind of one off goofy episodes in the old series. We had a BDSM Kira! But making that super downer Discovery season was just depressing.
Yes, and bring back Chase... Masterson?
Oh you want the Riker/fullhouse spinoff
Yay! Can’t wait!!
Yay… I guess. I’m invested now so I gotta watch it.
And that is another turn into a great saga !!!
Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 8 months ago
I don’t hate this show for existing like many.
As Mariner in Crisis Point 2: it’s a starfleet story so it’s worth telling.
However, I really feel like they wanted to have the “it’s BEFORE almost everything else” cake and also wanting to eat it by having more advanced tech.
Then they realized their error, shot into the future, but in my opinion EXTREMELY underestimated technological advancement across NEARLY 1000 YEARS. Everything basically looks the same.
And then a man child had a temper tantrum and destroyed galactic civilization single-handedly. Sure. Okay. Have fun with the rest of the show, but that’s where I turn in for the night.
It just really seems like they had a premise for a good show, then someone came in and demanded this and that HAS to be in the show, and instead of rewriting to make it good, they just kind of crammed things in to please the higher ups.
So far I’ve loved SNW though.
dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 8 months ago
I felt the same way, at first. Then I realized that we have other things in the Trek canon that asks as much suspension of disbelief:
reddig33@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The Star Trek movie about God flopped though. And for good reason. Holding it up as an example is like saying, “Well, there’s been plenty of one off crappy Star Trek episodes or movies, so we should make five seasons worth of them” and then say that’s ok instead of doing better.
askryan@startrek.website 8 months ago
Totally, thank you. Star Trek is goofy as hell sometimes. I think if the Kelpian kid had been a plot device isolated to a single episode, no one would have batted an eye if it were on TNG or VOY. But as the reveal of a season long mystery, it was a big woof for a season and a concept that I was really into.
That said, season 4 really picked up that briefly dropped ball. I think the last two episodes of S4, plus the one with the debate at Federation HQ, will go down as Trek classics once Disco ages a bit.
Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t dislike it for existing but there are a few characters I can’t stand. Sadly the main two for me are Burnham and Tilly, so I have to cringe a lot. Don’t like the action pace of the show and didn’t like big, season long story arcs. But I do love Stammets and his entire story, wish the whole show was about him, he’s such a unique character and has such a unique skill and connection to Starfleet and the discovery ship itself
halm@leminal.space 8 months ago
I enjoyed large parts of Disco so far, and pretty much agree with you. The show feels like a decent Brian Fuller setup that was corrupted during the production of season 1, and continued to take course correction notes for each new season.
Let me one-up you here: it looked like a step back. Not only in terms of in-universe development, but also just… uninventive production design. Trek gave us sliding automatic doors, flip phones and touchscreen tablet computers before they existed in the real world. Its conceptualisation of 32nd century tech and design on the other hand is swiped from actual 21c industry pipe dreams.
If this sounds very negative, I’ll add that I’ve really enjoyed the highs of Discovery, and there have been a good few throughout the show. I like that they’ve leaned into the emotional and therapeutic work that would go into an accepting, peaceful society — even on a daily workplace and social basis.
And hell yeah, will I binge rewatch all seasons as a warmup to the final outing!
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 8 months ago
Automatic doors were invented in the 1930s.
“Flip phone”-style form factors were appearing in fiction in the 20s, and had started to appear in actual electronics by the 60s, albeit as full-sized telephones and radios.
The first stylus-friendly touchscreen became available in 1962, and the first patent for such a device was filed in 1946.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I just don’t like the story spanning entire seasons. They either become too complex to keep it interesting, or ir becomes a boring slog to get through.
Also means that if the story sucks, the entire season sucks.
Would have loved it more if it was episodic like SNW.
Shalakushka@kbin.social 8 months ago
People don't hate this show for existing, they hate the generic JJ Abrams sci Fi aesthetic and writing, its incoherent premise, and the laughable fan fiction back story of its unwatchable main character.