Seems to me that Lemmy is nothing but a Firefox promo platform these days. For weeks this is the one and only trending topic.
It is essential to stop using Chrome. Under the pretense of saving users from third-party spyware, Google is creating an ecosystem in which Chrome itself is the spyware.
Submitted 10 months ago by Live_Let_Live@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://mastodon.world/@dangillmor@mastodon.social/111717790641002919
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viking@infosec.pub 10 months ago
priapus@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Lemmy is FOSS and largely used by anticapitalist tech nerds (I say this positively). Chrome is one of the most significant monopolies in tech. I don’t know why you wouldn’t expect this to be a common topic.
HKayn@dormi.zone 10 months ago
Firefox is a great browser, but the people that advocate for it can be insufferable at times.
viking@infosec.pub 10 months ago
Yeah, I’m using it and have been using it for 17+ years. Use a sanitized chromium installation for the precious few sites that genuinely don’t work in Firefox (I’m in China, there are a few of those). But the advocacy is annoying AF.
ipsirc@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is a post from a user who runs Google Android spyware 24/7…
BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Lineage/Graphene OS for the win
LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I switched to Firefox and using DDG as my search engine about 2m ago and I’ll be honest I really don’t care for it. I’m trying my best but I use my phone for 100% of my browsing and not being able to set a home page sucks and with DDG searching for stuff takes significantly longer to get answers with. I search for a ton of stuff that I just need a quick answer to that when searching for Google would just show the answer instead of needing to open links and such. I’m giving it a bit more time but I’ll probably end up back with chrome.
pathief@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Try the startpage search engine. It has been much better for me than DDG.
Firefox allows you to select a home page, tho? Not sure what your problem with Firefox is.
LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 10 months ago
How do I do a home page? When I couldn’t figure it out I searched online and it said on android you can’t.
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
User error, most people dont like change either
stagen@feddit.dk 10 months ago
On android firefox just doesn’t perform so well as Chrome does and can seem slow and buggy.
eyes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s not an easy transition. My partner works for DDG and I still don’t use it all the time. To their credit they are working to improve things but it’s a small team (comparatively). Their browser has some good features like app tracking protection just from having it installed and quick throwaway email support but isn’t quite up to Firefox’s standard (yet).
phourniner@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Vivaldi user since 2015. Never looked back.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Vivaldi is Chromium under the hood.
phourniner@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I know that, they have always been about privacy, and they are taking a stance against Google’s changes.
Sanyanov@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Firefox user since ever. Never looked anywhere.
IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I post Contra Chrome every time Chrome and spyware are mentioned, but I’ll post it here again.
Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 10 months ago
I use Chrome on the rare occasion when I have no choice but to use FB. Always with VPN. Otherwise it's FF.
theherk@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why use Chrome for Facebook? The Facebook container sufficiently isolates it.
Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 10 months ago
Good point, old habits from before the FB container existed.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
still waiting for anything that isnt mozilla or google based.
Thorium, oh good another chrome browser librewolf, oh good another firefox browser
PLEASE I BEG OF YOU, GIVE ME SOMETHING THAT ISN’T TAINTED.
Phegan@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Waterfox baby.
YeeHawSeeSaw@lemm.ee 10 months ago
So my gut instinct is to go to Firefox (again), but how can it compete? It’s down to like 2% market share, there’s a serious portion of the web that Firefox just can’t render anymore, and there’s all this press about the CEO getting this monsterous golden parachute.
So realistically what can anyone do but continue to use the only browser people ever really test sites for anymore, or swear allegiance to either Microsoft or Apple?
Soggy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ve been using Firefox exclusively for close to twenty years now and non-compatible websites are extremely rare. I’m sure there are industry-specific shortcomings but for general usage it’s always been acceptable at worst. And its market share is close to 7%.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I’ve only encountered 2 websites that didn’t work properly in Firefox and it was only intermittently
Those 2 were Google Play Music and YouTube Music, and both were fixed within a few days. Basically it worked fine, then something broke, then Firefox patched and it worked again.
It was also right around the time Google Play Music was set to die.
priapus@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Firefox can always compete, because if it ever stopped existing Google would have an antitrust case on their hands. For the same reason, Google cannot violate web standards, like what has happened in previous browser wars.
I don’t agree that Firefox is unable to render a portion of the web, I’ve been using it for years and have never once run into a website that had a problem with my browser. I thought once that studentaid.gov did, but that turned out to be a problem with extensions. I’ve seen more websites that have issues with me using Linux than with Firefox.
verdantbanana@lemmy.world 10 months ago
what are the other options
firefox is still not there in terms of language support and translating like chrome has etcetera
not bashing firefox or chrome honestly asking what else is there?
epiphany browser even further behind
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
translating like chrome
What?
nexusband@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No idea what you’re taking about, but I never had any issues translating sites with Firefox. Even Japanese or the likes.
Wogi@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Opera gx the only browser for gamers its advertised on YouTube so you know it’s good
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 months ago
I use Firefox at home and on my phone. I still use chrome at work because of habit and because that’s what most users use. Some of the other guys use Firefox anyway. Its dev tools seem fine.
gunpachi@lemmings.world 10 months ago
IMHO, people in corporations should acknowledge that there is a growing user base for Firefox and give it as much priority as chrome. That way people in an organization can at least explore a different browser than chrome (especially the non-tech folks).
The reality is that companies test all their websites in Chrome. Any automation testing will also be focused on Chrome and Safari. Also majority of the developers use Chrome dev tools for debugging. I don’t see that changing anytime soon. I feel that Firefox is like a second class citizen in their book.
But hey, that might be a good thing too. All the tracking B.S will be developed for chrome and We can continue to enjoy privacy with good old firefox.
pathief@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Our automation tests run on Firefox on odd days and on Chrome on even days. I don’t think it ever made a difference, tho. It’s getting harder to create bugs that are specific to Firefox or Chrome. Safari, on the other hand, is a fucking mess.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I have been using the same web browser, in terms of codebase, ideology, and heritage, since 1993.
That’s almost a third of a century.
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Google in general is ass. That also includes your googled phones.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Chrome has always been spyware. Ever since the first pre alpha from 15 years ago
PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 10 months ago
Hoping someone can help explain this to me.
I understand Google is making some fairly sweeping changes to chrome that negatively affect the free internet. To what extent does that filter down into.the chromium based browsers? I have been struggling to find any relevant information on this, everyone just talks about it like they are all unique browsers
I have been using Vivaldi and really enjoying it, but it is chromium based, so of course it could be helping to support these changes, indirectly.
Thanks in advance
HolyDiver@aussie.zone 10 months ago
i just switched to firefox with ublock origin, it took a bit of getting used to but no real issue. Also started using thunderbird because microsoft pushing outlook (pay or have ads at the top of your inbox) and getting rid of their free mail app pisses me off, seems like big software companies are just getting bolder with their anti consumer practices.
Lightrider@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
#fuckingcapitalists