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Windows 11 scores dead last in gaming performance tests against 3 Linux gaming distros
Submitted 11 months ago by OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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mob@lemmy.world 11 months ago
OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 11 months ago
1 day cannot pass without this article getting reposted across various communities.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Yeah, these are getting really annoying.
GarytheSnail@programming.dev 11 months ago
I swear people just scroll through lemmy, see a post they like and then think to themselves, “this is cool, I should post this on lemmy!”
troyunrau@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
It’s okay. Lemmy isn’t a wiki. Content is organized temporally. Imagine these conversations as bar conversations (just because one group had a conversation one night, doesn’t mean another group can’t repeat it the next). If you are annoyed that the algo keeps giving you the same stuff, sort by All and New Comments and you’ll find niche communities to subscribe to.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
As someone on Linux, and who thinks performance is generally slightly better on my machine after switching, I totally agree. This post has been old for a while now. Get some more data and then post that new thing or stop posting it.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Testing done on specific hardware and not a broad spectrum of machines is as relevant as asking one person their political opinion and saying that applies to their whole nation.
RealFknNito@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well sure but rephrased it’s just “Three Linux distros that embarrass Windows 11 in gaming performance.” which to me, is equally interesting.
adrian783@lemmy.world 11 months ago
article title: windows DEAD LAST!
also in the same article: “… When it comes to FPS, the overall leader in testing was Nobara Linux, with Arch Linux and Pop!_OS trailing by 1–5%. Windows 11, however, was only 6% behind Nobara Linux. So, **there isn’t a massive performance delta here, **”
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
“on that one specific machine.”
You’re missing that part from your premise and it’s the important one.
Notice how they didn’t use one with an Nvidia GPU… Or even hardware released this year either…
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
What do the performance metrics look like for the games that won’t run on Linux?
SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 11 months ago
About the same as Spiderman 2 or Ghost of Tsushima on Windows.
agraves@lm.possum.city 11 months ago
you mean the rootkits that won’t run on Linux?
Toribor@corndog.social 11 months ago
When did ‘rootkit’ come to be a generic term for invasive software? Rootkits are a specific type of thing.
hal_5700X@lemmy.world 11 months ago
…switching to Linux might be worthwhile for gamers on the move looking to eke out every last drop of performance from the ROG Ally or Lenovo Legion Go.
So they’re talking about the ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go not a desktop PC or a laptop. Nice clickbait.
the_q@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m on a desktop running Pop and I bet my system performs better than an equal Windows system. These handhelds are actual PCs, bud.
prole@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
They are just PCs though…?
hal_5700X@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Okay. But it’s still a clickbait title. Seeing they nothing handheld PCs in the title.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They’re literally just PCs. They aren’t some mysterious thing. They’re using the same architectures a laptop or desktop would.
corm@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Out of touch comment.
Handheld PCs are PCs.
Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The article talks about those mobile systems, but the actual benchmark on Computerbase tested these on a desktop.
Ryzen 7 5800X Scythe Mugen 5 cooler Asus ROG Strix B550-A Gaming 32BG DDR4-3600-RAM (CL18-22-22-44) Sapphire RX 6700 XT Nitro+
Tested @ 1080p 144Hz, Freesync Off
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Linux bros will take anything.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Microsoft bros in denial.
Linux runs windows software faster than Windows can run Windows software.
ls64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I still can’t get anything to run consistently in Linux after 10 years, and many, many distros. Timber born and Raft currently never open, no matter what. I a huge Linux user but the gamin experience has always been so finicky for me and no matter how much I try it’s still unattainable. And even when they run its with a lot of configution and tinkering unless it has native support. I have no issue with that but I’m so frustrated my experience with this seems so diffent than what everyone else is having. I want to delete my windows partition and it still feels so far away.
dewritoninja@pawb.social 11 months ago
What have you been doing. Cause for me it’s just install steam enable proton and install pretty much any game on my library. Or install lutris login to my accounts and play epic games / gog games. It literally just works
iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Let me know when you get Witcher 2 to run on Linux. With some tinkering and magic settings, it can run. But it crashes so often it is bordering unplayable.
ls64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I know this is a very common experience, but for me it fails. The list is too long but belive me I’ve tried it. It’s probably some weird driver issue or some thing I use for x y or z that conflicts. Who knows.
Amends1782@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I’d be happy to help if you’d like I can play 90% or more of my library on Linux. Basically, if its in steam it’s a cake walk. I recommend something like Mint cinammon or pop_os all you need is proton really. I can’t run games with certain anti cheat like tarkov cause the anti cheat devs don’t support Linux
ls64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Running mint right now, went back to basics after a stint with majaro. I appreciate the offer but for now the windows distro stays and every few months I will try again. I know so many people have such a seamless experience. That is what makes it way more frustrating.
Jaffa@lemm.ee 11 months ago
YMMV of course but I was playing Timberborn just the other day on Mint, on an Nvidia card, through Heroic. Proton seems to have been a gamechanger. I have just made my first steps into switching my daily driver myself. I may have been lucky but all the games I have wanted to play have worked so far. I also have a Steam Deck, which is what has encouraged me that it may be possible.
akrot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Heroic
This. While the experience for Gaming on linux is still not perfect, or as easy as install and play, Heroic is a good start. It still requires configuration and many hidden configs are not always obvious for the user, but I managed to run every game I threw at it flawlessly so far. All AAA games, and games from 2000 (Hitman, C&C games, Jazz Jackrabbit etc…), GoW, Cyberpunk, Hogwarts, etc. On a RTx 2070.
MisterNeon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Damn, I was thinking about switching but I play alot of Timberborn.
Evrala@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I play quite a bit of timberborn, worked just fine. Had some sound issues but changing to proton experimental fixed them.
InvisibleShoe@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ve got >500hours in Timberborn on Ubuntu. Runs flawlessly and never had an issue.
nutsack@lemmy.world 11 months ago
this game is actually fun? what would you compare it to?
BaardFigur@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you tried on wayland, did you test it on x11? For me that solved all my issues
the_q@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Nvidia GPU?
sturmblast@lemmy.world 11 months ago
News flash, Windows is garbage.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I’ve been out of the industry for a while, but unless Windows was completely rewritten from the ground up in the last 5 years, this doesn’t surprise me. That OS has always been a hot, bloated mess. And no, I’m not a Linux bro. I use another heavily commercialised OS that doesn’t run Windows because I no longer have the energy to care.
An OS written on Unix can outperform Windows? I’m shocked.
Ripper@lemmy.world 11 months ago
windows is overbloated garbage
thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I wonder if they did these tests using ray tracing or not. On my AMD 7900xt in Cyberpunk, ray tracing under linux is practically unusable levels of performance compared to windows .
hal_5700X@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Safe bet, they didn’t. Seeing they’re talking about ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go.
vikingtons@lemmy.world 11 months ago
radv is gradually catching up with amdvlk in terms of rtrt perf. could be worth using amdvlk for raytacing for now, though
aniki@lemm.ee 11 months ago
expect more and more of these headlines as linux gaming matures in the next few years.
prole@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I recently switched to Linux this year (finally), and my experience has been the same.
Not only that, but in some cases, playing a Windows version of a game with Proton seems to work better than the native Linux runtime.
debounced@kbin.run 11 months ago
amen, i love EndeavorOS. i've jettisoned all Windows support in my house and anything that needs Windows gets put into an isolated VLAN that can't talk to anything else. and for the archaic business crap that only has a Windows release, CrossOver is a godsend. same CodeWeavers devs that made Proton and is essentially Wine Premium.
prole@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I’m not an expert in networking stuff… If I am using a Windows 11 laptop (owned by my work) on the same network as my personal laptop, am I putting my privacy/data/etc. at risk? Should I be sequestering the work laptop in some way?
Mandy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I keep hearing and seeing from seemingly everyone that Linux gaming is better basically every month, how it keeps improving and stuff (like the article here)
But for me personally it never did in the last 5 years, whenever I try to step out if emulation and back to windows exlusove games? Its like 5 bullet Russian roulette, if it works at all and doesn’t stop working for inexlicitly no reason
What are yall doing to actually make things work somewhat reasonable (default lutris, proton, or ge has never even renowtly worked how well for me, at all)
snekerpimp@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Modern Linux kernel and steam with proton, and in a few instances lutris with wine. Unless it has anticheet, it’ll play pretty well.
Mandy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
what black magic are you using to make them work
Cralder@feddit.nu 11 months ago
For me default proton “just works” usually. But I play a lot of indie games
Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The only issues left with Windows-Only games is their crippeling-for-purpose anti-cheat code. Anything else works better on Linux.
So the question is whether to support those BDSM anti-cheat games, or get a better gaming experience.
01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
the linux wars!! lets see who wins. also, its a friendly war, microsoft loves and will support linux
potoo22@programming.dev 11 months ago
It’s probably more cost effective to run Azure Services on Linux machines than Windows machines.
zeppo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They… accepted that they’re not killing Linux, yet. Back in the 2000s, before Azure, they felt quite threated by Linux and ‘Microsoft Linux’ was a joke. The then-CEO Steve Ballmer called Linux a ‘cancer’.
Unyieldingly@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Microsoft has a how to for Installing Linux on the desktop.
computerscientistI@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Maybe. But it does so in ALL OF THE GAMES!!!
averyfalken@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Linux has all the games I care about. So no need for windowd
CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Unless you’re super into Fortnite or CoD, Linux plays virtually all of them too.
SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I can’t get Spiderman 2 or Ghost of Tsushima to run on Windows. What am I doing wrong?
can@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
OP I love your username
Xideta@ani.social 11 months ago
I’ve heard that Linux’s task scheduler is just much better than windows’, so it kinda makes sense that all would beat Windows.
BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social 11 months ago
Anyone have a good explanation on 'Frame Time'? This is the first time I've heard of this term and after some quick googling I feel like I'm not understanding why it's worth caring about.
shortwavesurfer@monero.town 11 months ago
Thats awsome
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Since Steam stops working on Win7 in january I was forced to update the OS and I went with Ubuntu since the newer windows seem like plain garbage and spyware. Installing the OS was a huge hassle and getting DayZ to run on it wasn’t without an issue either but it works now and the performance seems to be about the same. I only use the Linux machine for occasional gaming so it’ll do but I’m not sure if I could daily drive it. Everything seems to need you to do something in terminal which I understand nothing about and aren’t interested in learning.
sock@lemmy.world 11 months ago
windows 11 able to play games that linux distros cant*
Koordinator_O@lemmy.world 11 months ago
xiffu@kbin.social 11 months ago
Is fantastic
penquin@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It actually works flawlessly, except for those windows only games of those ones with anticheat bullshit. Especial on AMD, as all the drivers are baked into the kernel and it’s literally plug and play.
egeres@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m not deep on how the core of an OS works, but to my understanding, the kernel of linux should be more robust and reliable, shouldn’t it always be performing better than windows on the same hardware?
Where could I read information on the things that hinder performance on linux, does anybody have any educational resources?
darganon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I dual boot arch and windows 11 at home. In World of Warcraft arch is behind, and I haven’t figured out what the problem is. Something just feels off with it. With any luck they’ll continue to improve compatibility. (likely Nvidia driver diff)
ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Did NixOS join the party against Windows in performance tests?
RickyWars@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Cool that average FPS is better but:
I feel like worse 1% lows makes this title misleading. Hopefully with time this gap will close.
narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 11 months ago
1 % lows are likely a driver thing (Nvidia calls it “Game Ready Drivers”), with Arch you’ll get new drivers (or kernel versions) much earlier, similar to Windows.
iAmTheTot@kbin.social 11 months ago
... Then why did they get the results that they did in the article?