Arch and other Linux operating systems Beat Windows 11 in Gaming Benchmarks

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https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/three-gaming-focused-linux-operating-systems-beat-windows-11-in-gaming-benchmarks

Arch and other Linux operating systems Beat Windows 11 in Gaming Benchmarks::ComputerBase benchmarked three different Linux operating systems and found that all three can achieve better gaming performance than Windows 11.

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AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Gonna fire the first bullet:

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(I also use Arch btw)

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- kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  As an Arch user myself… I feel seen.
  
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- KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Ironic when 95% of Lemmy is full of people telling others to use Linux.
  
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  - ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Implying we’re people
    
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- toroknos_07@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Ha, petty
  
  I, on the other hand
  
  Use arch
  
  (BTW)
  
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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Crazy how far Linux gaming has come in the past 5 years. From practically non-existent, to now often running games better than the actual OS and graphics API they were designed to run on.

The only major roadblock is some anticheat software requiring highly invasive Windows rootkits to function, which Linux doesn’t really work with.

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- nous@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  The only major roadblock is some anticheat software requiring highly invasive Windows rootkits to function, which Linux doesn’t really work with.
  
  I consider that more of a feature then a bug
  
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  - RubberElectrons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Word.
    
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  - unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    100% Cheating is a social problem. Not a technical one
    
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  - Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Facts!
    
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- AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  also Proton-GE with AMD FSR is basically just like downloading more FPS no matter which game you’re playing
  
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- bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  All hail our lord and saviour Gaben!
  
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  - Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Confirmed!
    
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the_q@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I don’t understand why new Linux folks immediately go for Arch-based distros and insist on using Nvidia GPUs. Like, are you guys into suffering or something?

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- kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I used endeavorOS (basically Arch with a GUI installer) and I have had 0 issues with Nvidia GPUs, in fact it was a smoother experience than anything else.
  
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  - the_q@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That’s rad, man. Glad you’re happy.
    
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- Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Ugh, I got a 2080 years ago and it’s been such a pain in the ass. Never again.Image
  
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  - the_q@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yeah that’s a bummer, but in Windows that’s still a good card for gaming/CUDA. Nvidia, unfortunately, is a lot like Apple. They do have some neat tech, but they lock it behind both price and exclusivity. That’s great for C-Suite pockets, but very anti-consumer at its core.
    
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- cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  When I started using Linux circa 2008 Nvidia was the way. ATI/AMD would never work as well. Fast forward and I still use Nvidia because of cuda cores and davinci resolve for video editing. I’ve just been on the Nvidia card game for a long time. I have no problems with it still.
  
  As for arch base, I started that in 2015. Just found it more flexible and AUR is awesome. So much more software that I could not get on a debian based system.
  
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- AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I never understood what you people do with your machines, through the years i must have used at least half a dozen nvidia gpus and never had any real issues.
  
  Of course early on you had to compile your drivers in the kernel yourself, but then I’m not even sure ati had drivers at the time. And that’s how you configured the kernel anyway.
  
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  - the_q@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I think a lot of users kinda jump in the deep end, which is fine, but expect their experience to be flawless. Then when it inevitably isn’t they get upset and disheartened. I get that.
    
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- devilish666@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  The reason is very simple, Arch has tons of software & all available in it’s repository (need more software you can check AUR)
  The other reason is flexing to other users
  For NVIDIA case it’s not that hard especially if you know what you doing, if you’re newbie you can use Garuda Linux & it will detect and install NVIDIA driver it self for you
  
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  - Freylint@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    NVidia has a pretty good capture on the gaming market. Especially during the 980/1080 generations. I’ve also seen a ton of non media people insist on NVidia cuz of shadowplay.
    
    This is speculation, but I don’t think most new Linux users are building computers specifically for Linux. They’re letting their computers age, then considering Linux when they see the cost of the new generation of NVidia hardware.
    
    Let us not overestimate the general publics knowledge of hardware compatibility and operating systems in general. I think they conceptualize it like replacing a brick in a Lego wall. They’d have no reason to suspect it wouldn’t work.
    
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  - dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Do you know of any guides to getting started with Arch?
    
    I’ve been wanting to switch for a while but the challenge is daunting and I am very tech literate.
    
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supercritical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Three gaming-focused Linux operating systems beat Windows 11 in gaming benchmarks

Arch is a gaming-focused Linux OS now lmao

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- kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I mean, it can be, if you do the right fine-tuning.
  
  But yeah, I think they kind of missed the point. Arch seems to work pretty damn well for gaming with a completely vanilla, standard configuration.
  
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  - supercritical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    For sure, I’m just giving them a hard time with semantics haha
    
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- mytchj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  If I had to guess why Arch, probably because Steam OS (on the Deck) is based on Arch
  
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- noodlejetski@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Pop!_OS too, somehow.
  
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JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Are we not talking about the author spelling it “Vavle”?

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- soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Summarises the quality of this article
  
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finder@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
No mention of important metrics like frame times, and 1-0,1% fps lows. You can feel these in game, even if you have 200+ fps.

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- mihnt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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  - endhits@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    FH5 is awful on Linux. Even after I switched to an AMD card it’ll cause system-wide crashes.
    
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narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Makes you wonder how much faster these games could go if Proton wasn’t needed.

I’d like to see more configurations tested though. I have a 7950X3D CPU and I’m interested how well Linux handles assigning the “correct” cores (3D cache vs. higher frequency) depending on the game. Would also love to see whether games under Linux further profit from the large cache.

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- bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I think the impact of Proton is negligible nowadays. It’s basically just an implementation of a library the game uses. If it wasn’t Win32 it could be another library like SDL. The normal game logic is usually done in something nearer to the CPU anyways, which will be the same regardless of OS. And if the game uses Vulkan instead of Direct3D the graphics are also running almost directly on the GPU.
  
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  - fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The real force multiplier we could see is when game engine devs push optimizations upstream, which is just something you can’t do on windows.
    
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  - narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    You’re probably right.
    
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0ddysseus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Nice article!

I know it’s hearsay but I’ll throw in that on my mint rig with a ryzen CPU and nvidia GPU I haven’t had any problem with any game I’ve run through steam in the past 3-4 years. I just buy what I want and fire it up.

I don’t play comp games but haven’t had issues with the few multiplayer games i be tried

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- stephen01king@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Is that considered hearsay or is that just anecdotal?
  
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  - 0ddysseus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Man I was thinking about that all day and knew I should have used anecdotal instead 😄
    
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- kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  I know it’s hearsay
  
  fyi the word you are probably looking for is Anecdotal:
  
  (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.
  
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psychic717@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Similar to the overall results, the frame rate difference between each OS was very small, with most titles having an fps delta of less than eight between the fastest and slowest operating systems.

Not enough for me ditch Windows and face Linux adversities.

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- dallo@lemmy.kiois.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I prefer to face linux adversities that teach me more about computer than facing Windows one who are about advertising, tracking and enshitiffication
  
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  - CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Good point, but learning requires excessive free time. I’m working or sleeping and on the days that I don’t work I just want to play my games, eat ice cream and not have to re-learn how to use a computer
    
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  - agitatedpotato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    What do you learn about computers when you can’t play multiplayer games with your friends because you cant run the anticheat?
    
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ExfilBravo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Amazing what happens when you don’t use you overhead to run bullshit ads for your Xbox controllers and games.

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Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
CSGO is way faster on Linux than Windiws

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Shadywack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
There’s a few things I wonder about with this. They tested an AMD GPU, which is great as it shows off how awesome ACO and the RADV projects are. The Mesa devs alongside the AMD folks contributing to the RADV driver, along with all of Valve’s work, showcases how awesome FOSS can be at optimizing. I watched RADV go from underdog to top dog in performance, and it’s no longer arguable that AMD hardware works better under Linux than Windows thanks to the stellar work done on those projects.

Meanwhile we have nVidia who clings selfishly to their proprietary blobs, and I can’t help but wonder how great it could be if they opened that up and let the community in. Is it already hyper optimized to the point that the community wouldn’t be able to improve on it? Idk, but from an infrastructure standpoint, nVidia users would benefit from it immensely, if not from performance.

I recall when vkd3d-proton performance was severely impacted under nVidia, to the tune of a 40% delta, and that’s improved significantly, but I still wonder how this would look on an nVidia GPU to compare Windows vs Linux performance.

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- AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  we have nVidia who clings selfishly to their proprietary blobs, and I can’t help but wonder how great it could be if they opened that up and let the community in.
  
  Nvidia is doing that because they don’t want people to deploy gaming GPUs in datacenters, and they can currently enforce that through their driver license. That license is what enables them to force most enterprise users to buy expensive A100/H100 datacenter GPUs and rack in really fat margins when a couple of RTX 4090 cards would actually be enough to do the job with good cost efficiency. The control that Nvidia has with that license is not something they’re ready to give up and that’s why they kept giving the middle finger to the FOSS community.
  
  (before anyone mentions vast.ai as a counter-example, those RTX 4090 compute sellers are indeed breaking Nvidia’s EULA)
  
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- victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I play Rocket League on Windows and Arch using Nvidia. Windows performance has been getting worse over the years. Used to have 500+ fps, now have issues getting up to steady 280. This is Psyonix’s fault though.
  
  But still, the performance is in fact more reliable, stable, and higher overall on Linux for me. No sudden janks, no lag spikes, no nothing, as on Windows.
  
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