Pavlov's conditioning

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• Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean, no joke, a dog whining/ begging is conditioning you.

  I beg. You give me food. I look cute.

  I beg. You don’t give me food. I cry.

  Next time I beg, will you give me the food?

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  • ikapoz@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I seem to remember reading that domesticated dogs evolved more expressive eyebrows that proved to be a survival advantage in this process.

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    • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Found the article: www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1820653116

      That is super neat, you’re right! It was bread into them due to human preference.

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve seen a few things that have shown many animals have developed a sense of “cuteness” specifically to deal with us.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Too bad it’s not Pavlovian conditioning afaik

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  • harmsy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Replace every instance of dog with cat and you’ve got the reason I give out treats at night before I start cleaning dishes.

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• SoylentBlake@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The correct answer is

  Fuck Pavlov

  Motherfucker is like the Hitler of dogs. It’s a shame his name is remembered for the conditioning and not the mutilation. Dude was a monster.

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  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait really? Ive never been told about this

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    • Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, he cut holes in their throats so food would fall out and added additional holes along the digestive tract to collect various “gastric juices”. He also, apparently, started a business harvesting and selling said juices as a cure for indigestion… not sure how that worked, seems like it would cause more than it cured.

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  • harmsy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I guess Piccolo was right to curse out Pavlov.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But the mutilation was part of the research I thought

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• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Such an existential question in so few words.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or… it’s just an obvious “yes”…

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• lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There is a joke about that:

  Pavlov is sitting in a bar enjoying his beer. The phone rings. Pavlov jumps up: “Damn! I forgot to feed the dogs!”

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• Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My dog trained me to get him water by lifting the toilet bowl lid. He doesn’t want to drink out of it, but he knows I’ll get up to stop him and check his water on the way. Now he’ll lift the lid then go stand by the water dish.

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  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Alternatively: your dog has learned how to effectively communicate with you to ask for water.

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• Kellamity@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Pavlov’s dog is not notable for showing that dogs could be conditioned (bell = food time)

  What it did was show that a conditional response (bell = food time) could cause a reflexive response (saliva)

  Classical conditioning is not the same as associative learning.

  Pavlov’s dog is not about associating Thing A with Thing B - that didn’t need a russian scientist to prove.

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  • Fwoggey@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t know that! Also apparently the Barenaked Ladies had it right when they wrote Brian Wilson:

    It’s a matter of instinct It’s a matter of conditioning and a matter of fact You can call me Pavlov’s Dog Ring a bell and I’ll salivate

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  • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please Please Please Get a Life Foundation

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• TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What’s haunting about this question?

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  • braxy29@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i suppose it’s that his intent was to train (essentially to control) something apart from himself, but he likely trained himself in the process (created something within himself that he did not control, at least for as long as the response was conditioned).

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Assuming he was conditioned by the sound of the bell. Which might not be the case.

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  • Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Your brain being altered without your consent/awareness?

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• macisr@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fuck, damn. 🤔

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• Sabre363@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Pavlov Pavloved Pavlov

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• FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Deep

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• Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Image Transcription: Twitter Post

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  Jeremy Parish, probably, @gamespite

  Out of nowhere, my nephew just asked, “Do you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dog every time he heard a bell ring?” and now I’m going to be haunted by this question

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• JPJones@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The mice will see you now.

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