Well, thank you for letting us know. I read about Pavlov in textbooks in school, its better we dont whitewash his reputation! I learned the honest history in school about nazi medical experiments, I deserved to know about Pavlov too.
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Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 7 months agoYeah, he cut holes in their throats so food would fall out and added additional holes along the digestive tract to collect various “gastric juices”. He also, apparently, started a business harvesting and selling said juices as a cure for indigestion… not sure how that worked, seems like it would cause more than it cured.
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Scribbd@feddit.nl 7 months ago
My god. We don’t deserve dogs if we are not adjusting Pavlov’s reputation for this.
smooth_tea@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Jfc, to what end? All this retroactive cancelling of dead people is just diddling yourself for feel-good reasons. Get over it and be different instead of waving some flag that says you are different.
sebinspace@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Mate learning from history’s jackasses is how we move forward as a society. Cancelling? The fuck are we cancelling? You said it yourself, fucko is dead, cancelled by life, you don’t get much more “cancelled” than that.
smooth_tea@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Move forward as a society, that’s a good one. Please do tell how you’re going to change your ways now that you know someone famous did something heinous. Fuck all is going to happen, and all of this unearthing of our evil past to better ourselves is just a form of self delusion and shock value, typical for the outrage culture of these days.
The only reaction to this new found wisdom is “and then what”? And if you took two seconds to analyze the situation instead of getting on your high horse to start a new crusade you’d probably come to the same conclusion.
What is being implied here is that because he did something bad, all of a sudden that has to be mentioned every time he’s brought up. It’s completely pointless and just a testimony to how insecure we are as a society. It’s like having to cover up female ankles in case we get “urges”. It’s completely ridiculous.
This is the not how we move forward as a society, in fact it is a form of regression and infantility. An inability to hold two opposing ideas in our heads and instead throwing out the baby with the bath water because everyone constantly needs to reassure the person next to them how virtuous they are.
A progressive society does not need to retroactively change history, it can accept the imperfections of the past in the knowledge that we’ve already changed.
jose1324@lemmy.world 7 months ago
How about… both?
pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I get what you’re saying, but I personally don’t find it tiring. It’s just a part of contextualizing history. I think of it as a reminder of the progress we’ve made (I hope) - that we can put an asterisk beside someone’s name in the history books.
Kind of like how it’s impossible to talk about the history of hypothermia research without acknowledging its grossly unethical source.
Yearly1845@reddthat.com 7 months ago
How are you supposed to be different if no one ever tells you what was wrong the first time?