Canada's Carbon Price Working, So Of Course It's Being Attacked

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What’s with these badly worded titles and articles from no-name websites?

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  • Rinox@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Everything is AI generated and websites made to exploit SEO as much as possible.

    At least this is what I’m thinking.

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    • netburnr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The people paying to deny client change already used all the standard news sources so now they must make new ones.

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  • LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And clearly AI-generated image.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That is true as well.

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• Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Enough for the bottom quintile to be turning the thermostat down in all but one room and worrying about frostbite in the bathroom, but not for everybody else.

  And here is where the author makes a crucial mistake in my opinion. When the poorest are forced to turn down their heating, then the middle class gets spooked they might have to as well in the future. They will vote for scaremongers and climate change deniers, and in the end your noble project of pricing oil out of the daily lifes of people will fail.

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  • alvvayson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He should have added the caveat that global price instability is causing most of that pain. The carbon tax is only a small component.

    But also, the middle class can afford heat pumps. So they will never be in such a situation.

    And also also, turning the thermostat down one or two degrees saves a lot of money and is healthier and more natural.

    Sure, some people get spooked, but that’s mostly due to fear and uncertainty, not due to facts.

    Anyway, the author does make two mistakes: ignorance about nuclear and unrealistic expectations about the future revenue of carbon pricing.

    As the price goes up, revenue will go down, as less people emit carbon.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      global price instability gouging

      Fixed that for you

      turning the thermostat down one or two degrees saves a lot of money and is healthier and more natural.

      You know what saves even MORE money, is even HEALTHIER and even MORE natural? Instituting price ceilings to stop corporations from using global instability as an excuse for blatant price gouging rather than make it the responsibility of the powerless to compensate for the abuses of the powerful.

      As the price goes up, revenue will go down

      You couldn’t be more wrong

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    • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sure, some people get spooked, but that’s mostly due to fear and uncertainty, not due to facts.

      But we see this exact thing happening in Germany right this moment. The Greens got into power as the party with the second most votes, and they get made the boogieman by everyone for everything. Why? Because they moved a ban on new oil and gas heating systems forward, as well as subsidizing carbon-neutral heating systems. They didn’t even introduce the ban, they just moved it forward by two years. They were getting sabotaged from the get-go and are facing constant attacks from all sides. The Greens most likely won’t make it into power the next election cycle. The conservative bootlicker party CDU will get the most votes and the near-to-full Nazi party AfD will get 30% of all votes. And all that backlash, because the Greens dared to do anything about reducing green house gas emissions.

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    • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ignorance about nuclear

      Nuclear is not going to happen. Not without governments deciding to fund plants 100% up front. The economics just don’t make sense.

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• Gutless2615@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m too active on stable diffusion to not get ai triggers from that image.

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  • Stovetop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s becoming commonplace for online news. For articles that do not have a specific “event” that photos are sourced from, they would normally either commission an artist to provide some sort of illustration of the concept or cobble together a Photoshop collage. Generative AI provides another alternative to those options and allows the news outlet to get very specific with what they’re looking to depict.

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    • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And in turn, ever gradually are artists losing more jobs.

      Like it or not, generative AI is already replacing jobs, and we as a society aren’t ready for it, even though automation should be a good thing.

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• Stanwich@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t know if I’m middle class anymore. But I pay taxes on everything. I get none of the grants. I work as much overtime as I can and every bill keeps going up. I’m not saying carbon tax won’t work but fucking pause it for a bit so I can afford to fucking eat.

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  • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You were never middle class. None of us are. If you need to work or receive pension payments to maintain your lifestyle you’re working class. Convincing the working class that they’re middle class is one of the biggest cons of the last century.

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    • PilferJynx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m a bit scared to find out what you think is actually middle class.

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  • Pxtl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you’re in a province where the carbon price is federally run, you get the rebate. The average person should break even with the rebate.

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    • Stanwich@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You need to make less then 60 grand to get rebates. I make more so no rebates

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Canada’s federal government currently provides rebates of up to $5,000 off the sale price.

  Can we stop saying this is an incentive? It’s a cherry on the top of a e-car purchase but it’s not gonna be the thing that seals the deal. There’s a very good chance that $5000 will just barely pay half the tax on a new-car purchase. It’s embarrassing to keep trotting it out as significant.

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• miridius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Jesus fuck that’s a long article

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