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Modern earth is candy land compared to the planet we had 500+ years ago m’dude

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Submitted ⁨⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Grumpus_Maximus@thelemmy.club⁩ to ⁨historymemes@piefed.social⁩

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  • cravl@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    IMO “worse” is a completely meaningless term here. The breadth of what that could include is incomprehensible.

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  • 0ops@piefed.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The depiction of a sweaty man is a reference to out-of-control global warming

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  • Dagnet@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I didn’t do research on this but I remember reading that serfs worked less than we do today, is that true?

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    • Grumpus_Maximus@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They also ate 3x less than you today

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    BBC News - The evidence that shows today’s 20-somethings really do have it worse - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8mnvk4r48o

    A decade of falling incomes? JRF’s pre-budget assessment of living standards https://www.jrf.org.uk/cost-of-living/a-decade-of-falling-incomes-jrfs-pre-budget-assessment-of-living-standards

    The 1950s-1980s are a unique time in human history where things generally got insanely better for many people, particularly in the west, and basically created the modern concept of the middle class.

    At the end of the 80s Thatcher and Reagan had set the time bomb, public wealth was burned to give the illusion of even more prosperity, except now the prosperity was going, year on year, predominantly to the elite again, as it was in the Victorian era.

    Now we’re here, the bomb is going off, things are getting worse for everyone except the ultra wealthy, denying it just makes it easier for them to ensure you can’t resist when the penny drops.

    They want us back in our places, with Victorian era inequality

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    • Nautalax@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The UK may be stagnating and with a grimmer future ahead of it than previous times but huge advances have been made in South & East Asia where nearly a couple billion people were previously enduring some of the most intense poverty in the world. Progress is not uniform, some places are backsliding including very prominent countries, but many people globally are also seeing improvements in their lives too.

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  • oeuf@slrpnk.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well this comment thread is a barrel of laughs…

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  • miseducator@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    … and don’t get me started about the Devonian Period…

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  • impairedimperator@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That explains all the rising depression and anxiety.

    After all, the things that make life worth living are the new iPhone.

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  • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why point out the middle ages? Those 1000 years were not worse than any other historic period, be it in antiquity or the early modern era.
    Most inventions that make today’s candy land are from the last 50-150 years.

    Also, this is a very wealthy perspective. Easy access to fresh water, clean plumbing, access to modern medicin, central heating with thermostats, all that good stuff does not exist for large parts of humanity.

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    • TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Completely agree, I’m personally sick of the Medieval times being viewed as “the Dark Ages” where everything was objectively worse. Not only is it from a modern, first-world perspective as you’ve pointed out, but it’s also extremely Euro- and Christian-centric and ignores that most of the rest of the world experienced at least a couple ‘Golden Ages’ during the same time. Hell, even IN Europe, the Islamic states were often (though not always) better off than a lot of their Catholic counterparts. I think a large part of the modern view of the Medieval times being ‘backward’ come from two main sources: 1-propoganda that came during/immediately after the various Crusades/Iberian Reconquista (not to mention the subsequent discovery of the Americas); 2-the Bubonic Plague which, without a doubt, WAS awful for everyone involved, but for whatever reason we tend to forget that it was only a relatively short amount of time (roughly one decade towards the start of the time period during the reign of the Byzantine Emperor Justinian, and another decade roughly 800 years later) within the much larger time frame of a whole millennium

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      • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think a large part of the modern view of the Medieval times being ‘backward’ come from two main sources: 1-propoganda that came during/immediately after the various Crusades/Iberian Reconquista (not to mention the subsequent discovery of the Americas);

        Close, but not quite there. The modern image of the Middle Ages mostly does com from propaganda of the Enlightenment period when intellectuals, artists, the upper classes etc wanted to distinguish themselves from what was before, and then some from later periods pushing some things back in time (witch burnings were not a medieval thing and the peak of plate armour was in the 16th century).

        I know a german youtuber working on improving our image of the Middle Ages to a more realistic one, if you deal well with automatic subtitles I can recommend Geschichtsfenster.

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    • esc@piefed.social@piefed.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And yet even those parts of humanity live better than 100 years ago.

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      • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you are literally starving or dying from a preventable disease without access to healthcare, it doesn’t really matter if it is happening now or 1000 years ago, the result is exactly the same.

        Claiming that every human on Earth lives better than 100 years ago is not only objectively wrong, but rings of the “even our homeless here in the US lives better than the richest person in Africa” ignorant nonsense some people likes to spew.

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      • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I would not agree to that generalization.

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