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Thats hilarious. Does a vpn get around this? Because if so, it wont stop botting
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Submitted 1 year ago by retiolus@lemmy.cat to technology@lemmy.world
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wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 year ago
thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
It would unless they started banning VPN IPs. I guess Musk is stupid enough to do it
wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 year ago
Dont most vpn companies cycle their active ips? Or is that more of a niche thing only one or two options do
machinin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If I’m a bot owner and I could pay $500/year to ensure my 500 bots run unfettered, it might be with it. I can influence a significant amount of discourse with 500 accounts xitting, rexitting the original xit that was xit out, etc.
If he thinks he can make money from bot managers, it may make sense.
I will probably decrease trust in the whole xitty system, but maybe Musk doesn’t care?
Evotech@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And you’ll use 500 accounts for that?
I think that when they are banned, you’ll have to come up with 500 new ways to pay
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Rounding, let’s say that there are 125 million people in the Philippines and New Zealand. And let’s say that for some reason they all decide to make a new Twitter account and pay for it in perpetuity. Elon paid $44 billion for Twitter. At this rate, this move would allow him to recoup his investment in…352 years.
Substance_P@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nice… I love math presented like this.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He doesn’t get the whole dollar.
CC often have a %÷$ fee
E.g 2.5% and 10c per transaction
MimicJar@lemmy.world 1 year ago
While the “not a bot” argument exists, it is a weak one. I suspect the goal of this is,
A. Convince users outside of NZ and the Philippines to either create an account or at least keep (not delete) their existing account. Twitter needs to prove to advertisers that Twitter has reach/influence and with this they can say “you may have heard Twitter is bleeding users, but did you know the number of new Twitter users has actually increased xx/yy?” and it won’t technically be a lie.
B. Elon really does think this service will be an everything app of the future. He and anyone who believes this is absolutely bonkers and should genuinely seek help. However the value of an account that is already onboarded (e.g. had a credit card on file) is worth far more than any regular account. Convincing an account to spend their first dollar is much harder than convincing them to spend their second and so on.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
C. He was financed specifically to tank Twitter subtly and he’s doing a very job bad of it.
roguetrick@kbin.social 1 year ago
I highly doubt NZ is the center of a bot epidemic. It does, however, have high interchange fees and twitter is hemorrhaging money.
MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Okay this is the point where I start to buy the theory that he’s purposely tanking the site
MamboGator@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s still giving him too much credit. He’s just a moron.
MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean it’s hard to tell because he is very, very stupid, but he’s also just such a convenient idiot that I have to wonder at this point
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Not a moron. There are plenty of things he’s good at.
Running an advertising-funded internet company and being likeable are two things he is not.
alienanimals@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Downvote Musk spam.
The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring him and his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle. Don’t be a useful idiot.
bappity@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I beg they do this it’ll only make things worse
callmepk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Elon Musk, as we all know it:
ram@bookwormstory.social 1 year ago
It’s beginning.
To my recollection, Aotearoa and the Phillipines are both common countries for market trials, right? I wonder if he’s looking to see the response ^(Elon^ ^Musk^ ^questioning^ ^himself?^ ^Has^ ^he^ ^gained^ ^sentience?)^ or if he’s specifically looking to see what impact it has on how much it costs to operate in that country?
Either way, I hope they raise the price before the international rollout.
ZeroCool@feddit.ch 1 year ago
LOL. If anyone reading this hasn’t jumped ship yet, now’s as good a time as any. Mastodon’s website makes for a great PWA, alternatively, Ice Cubes for iOS is a solid free third party mobile app. Now let’s talk desktop. The normal site is pretty good. But if you’re looking for something a little more robust mastodeck.com is a third party front end that’s great for power users and multitasking.
Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org 1 year ago
Haven’t heard of Mastodeck. Gonna have to check it out. But to add some android apps to your list Megalodon treated me well when I was using it and Moshidon looked good too. For those that don’t need something as crazy as Mastodeck on desktop though, there’s Mastodon’s built-in advanced view as well. I was never a Twitter user, but Mastodon and Firefish have been very fun to check out.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Tusky kicks ass for Mastodon on Android.
capt_wolf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Huh…
Shame those greedy security guys wanted to get paid so bad.
hperrin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I charge $1/month to send email on my email service. There’s a reason for that. It’s because it’s the smallest amount I can charge, and spammers are unlikely to pay anything, no matter how small, to send email. If they do, and I catch them, I’d probably be able to get their payment account suspended. So, I understand why this could be a good approach to combatting spam. Here’s the problem with Twitter doing it:
- Elon has full control over the platform. It’s not like there are other providers that will block him if his users send a bunch of spam. He also has the ability to revoke all the messages that users have sent once they are discovered as spammers, whereas with email, once spam is sent, there’s nothing I can do about it.
- Email is actually useful. Tweeting is just self promotion. No one coordinates their doctor appointment with Twitter.
- Spam is basically the only thing keeping Twitter looking viable right now. Their users are leaving. Their advertisers are leaving. It’s maybe not the best time to be pushing the spammers away.
insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 1 year ago
My first thought is that it still requires them to follow up on catching spammers (similar to the paid check, this as a "solution" makes me think they won't do that).
I could see spammers deciding "hey, I'll make more than $1 before I'm caught" and do something with payment to hide their tracks (maybe a simple thing that should be known), meanwhile normal users say "Eh, I gotta pay? No thanks."
troyunrau@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
What if this is just a plan to recreate the original x.com and be a payment processor. Gotta have an excuse to rebuild payment processing architecture right?
downpunxx@kbin.social 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahahaha all these dingbats are gonna give elon fucking musk their credit card information
son_named_bort@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’d be happier with the dollar.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If you want to join X, the service formerly known as Twitter, via its website in New Zealand and the Philippines, be prepared to fork over $1 a year for the privilege.
X’s post doesn’t explain why the new $1 subscription is only for new users joining via the web and not the mobile app, or why Not a Bot is only being rolled out in two countries.
A guess would be that X has seen more bot activity from these regions than others, and that it’s much easier to create a bunch of fake accounts via the website.
“New users who opt out of subscribing will only be able to take ‘read only’ actions,” such as viewing posts and watching videos, according to the company.
(Confusingly, the “Not A Bot” terms and conditions indicate that people will be able to also subscribe from X’s iOS and Android apps, even though the main post on X’s help center only specifies web.)
Musk has been clear from the beginning of his Twitter takeover that he thinks charging will impede bot armies, though it’s estimated that a very, very small percentage of users are paying.
The original article contains 312 words, the summary contains 193 words. Saved 38%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If you want to join X, the service formerly known as Twitter, via its website in New Zealand and the Philippines, be prepared to fork over $1 a year for the privilege.
X’s post doesn’t explain why the new $1 subscription is only for new users joining via the web and not the mobile app, or why Not a Bot is only being rolled out in two countries.
A guess would be that X has seen more bot activity from these regions than others, and that it’s much easier to create a bunch of fake accounts via the website.
“New users who opt out of subscribing will only be able to take ‘read only’ actions,” such as viewing posts and watching videos, according to the company.
(Confusingly, the “Not A Bot” terms and conditions indicate that people will be able to also subscribe from X’s iOS and Android apps, even though the main post on X’s help center only specifies web.)
Musk has been clear from the beginning of his Twitter takeover that he thinks charging will impede bot armies, though it’s estimated that a very, very small percentage of users are paying.
The original article contains 312 words, the summary contains 193 words. Saved 38%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
spark947@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What, is this because of botters?
retiolus@lemmy.cat 1 year ago
Following this: Elon Musk says X to have two new premium tiers
TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Saved you a click: New Zealand and the Philippines are the countries.