The 9th day of Halloween. What, y’all don’t celebrate all month long?
What do you call the next major American holiday which will occur on Monday, October 9th? - Lemmy.world
Submitted 7 months ago by favrion@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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edgemaster72@lemmy.world 7 months ago
WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world 7 months ago
All month? This is the 342nd day of Halloween. All days lead to Halloween.
SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You have my full support.
Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I call it Columbus Day.
Many people hate this name because they find the character of the man reprehensible. Many also argue that since he wasn’t the first person from the Eastern Hemisphere to come to the Western Hemisphere his name shouldn’t be enshrined in the name of a holiday.
To my knowledge there isn’t a single historically significant person who we today could call a wholly good person. Setting this aside momentarily. Columbus is arguably one of the most significant people in all human history. We describe the Americas before European contact as Pre-Colombian, we could describe the entire world similarly. It would take too long to list all the ways the world is different after Columbus. Just listing the foods would take too long. Just listing the places named after Columbus is exhausting: a country, a Canadian province, two us state capitals, the us capital, the second largest city in Panama, cities/towns/villages all over the Americas and streets, rivers, and lakes as far off as Italy and the Philippines.
Most people know that Brazilians speak a Portuguese dialect while the majority of South and Central America speak a Spanish dialect. This is because in 1500 Pedro Álvares Cabral accidentally discovered Brazil while trying to go around the Cape of Good Hope. In some alternate reality there’s a Cabral Day and a pre-Cabralean America and all those placenames are named after Pedro Álvares Cabral.
It isn’t the man that causes me to call it Columbus Day it is the immensity the historical significance that does. The man did some terrible things. Unfortunately, when you study history that’s how it just goes. If you discount every historical person based on whether they meet modern ideals of good and evil then history books will become rather slim. History is full of people who do good things and bad things but they all do significant things.
If you want to call it Indigenous Peoples Day thats great. The same day can have multiple holidays. If you want to call it Columbus Day that’s great too. Let’s just remember that it’s easy to celebrate what we see as good while forgetting what’s uncomfortable and they should go hand in hand.
droans@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You’re right, we should judge Columbus based on the times he lived.
Bobadilla reported to Spain that Columbus once punished a man found guilty of stealing corn by having his ears and nose cut off and then selling him into slavery. He claimed that Columbus regularly used torture and mutilation to govern Hispaniola. Testimony recorded in the report stated that Columbus congratulated his brother Bartholomew on “defending the family” when the latter ordered a woman paraded naked through the streets and then had her tongue cut because she had “spoken ill of the admiral and his brothers”. The document also describes how Columbus put down native unrest and revolt: he first ordered a brutal suppression of the uprising in which many natives were killed, and then paraded their dismembered bodies through the streets in an attempt to discourage further rebellion…
In early October 1500, Columbus and Diego presented themselves to Bobadilla, and were put in chains aboard La Gorda, the caravel on which Bobadilla had arrived at Santo Domingo. They were returned to Spain, and languished in jail for six weeks before King Ferdinand ordered their release.
Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I didn’t say that we should judge him by the standards of his time. I did say that he did terrible things.
CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 7 months ago
I enjoy this nuanced perspective. In light of all that, I will now call this holiday Fuck Columbus Day.
Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s entirely your right
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 7 months ago
So why can’t we name it America’s day. We just need to stop using people names for shit.
Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If it’s very important to you then you could get signatures supporting changing the name to America’s Day or you could petition your state or local government. Things can be changed it just needs someone to enact that change.
dandroid@dandroid.app 7 months ago
Another work day that I don’t get off.
CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 7 months ago
Why Do I Have To Work Today Day
atocci@kbin.social 7 months ago
Leif Erikson Day - Hinga dinga durgen!
RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 7 months ago
YES, thank you
LongPigFlavor@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Indigenous Peoples’ Day
Nemo@midwest.social 7 months ago
My family celebrates Columbo Day by watching murder mysteries.
hoanbridgetroll@midwest.social 7 months ago
No Mail Monday, but I won’t remember until I check it anyways.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Culumbus Day. It doesn’t sit right with me that they took an existing holiday when August doesn’t have one.
TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Columbus really wasn’t someone worth celebrating
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 7 months ago
He told Europe that America existed. Thats a massive turning point in history.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 months ago
So you’d prefer to remember both the colonizer and the people who were massacred by colonization?
Weird take, but ok.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I mean…that sounds like a good idea.
Celebrating both sounds like a bad idea.
Maeve@kbin.social 7 months ago
We can’t help but remember both. Not repeating history, not so much.
DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social 7 months ago
They took a holiday about an Italian who had nothing to do with the US much like that man took indigenous people prisoners? That's what didn't sit right with you? So weird to think an Italian funded by the Spanish was somehow important enough to a country that didn't exist for another 300 years that the government made it a federal holiday.
More time passed between him erroneously finding the Americas and the signing of the Declaration of Independence than the US has even been around.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I call it “oh shit, is it a holiday today?”
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I call it get me the fuck off work day
cm0002@lemmy.world 7 months ago
For me it’s “Sometimes day off” day, if it’s not a major holiday, idrc what day it is only if I get a day off or not lmao
mrbubblesort@kbin.social 7 months ago
I call it Cumulonimbus day. Clouds are cool
CarlsIII@kbin.social 7 months ago
I looked it up and there are about 20 holidays on that day.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 months ago
I don’t celebrate it at all so I just call it Monday.
Alto@kbin.social 7 months ago
I don't think I've even noticed it since high school
ADHDefy@kbin.social 7 months ago
Where I live, we celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day.
Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 7 months ago
October 9th. Seemingly nothing really closes for that day, I know it’s technically a banking holiday but that doesn’t ever seem to matter to me.
AA5B@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Banking, school, government holiday but I rarely get it off (I do this year). I rarely go to a bank, so not likely to affect me (does anyone else remember when banks would close web sites for holidays?)
I got my kid home from school, which is nice, but his coach just called for an extra practice so we can’t do anything
fubo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Curiously, Google Calendar calls it both!
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
normal day
weew@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
celebrate Thanksgiving with Canadians
HedgehogsinSpace24@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Way more sensible day for a harvest festival
AlataOrange@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’d call it Monday personally
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Colonizers Day
Sargteapot@lemmy.nz 7 months ago
I dont
JCreazy@midwest.social 7 months ago
Monday
bunnyknuckles@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Indigenous People’s Day. Fuck that other guy.
FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The fucking liar that knew he wasn’t in India and still called the people Indians? Yeah fuck that fucking guy.
AA5B@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The impact on indigenous people was certainly significant, so that makes sense. However there was also significant impact on European history which would be missing. The advantage of calling it Columbus Day is he was central to all the lasting effects
bunnyknuckles@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Fuck him and fuck you.