iPhone 15's USB-C Port Remains Limited to Lightning Speeds

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• rootusercyclone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think there are logical explanations for this as commented by others. I’m genuinely curious who’s actually transferring data from the phone port these days… it’s been years since I synced anything to my computer. My port is used solely for charging. What’s the use case? Music?

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  • HellAwaits@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What’s the use case?

    Not paying for overpriced cloud storage for one.

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    • drislands@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know that there’s a lot of overlap between apple users and people that mind overpaying.

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    • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But paying for overpriced device storage then?

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  • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t want to pay for 300gb of overpriced iCloud storage. That’s the use case.

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    • GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are you syncing all of your data off of the phone via the cable and not wifi?

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  • TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Anyone using the pro to take raw images or 4k video. The files are huge.

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    • lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That one actually supports 3.0 10 GB/s though.

      It’s funny how Apple said that 3.0 was really fast and exciting.

      Come on apple, it’s just 3.0. The first android phone with 3.0 (I assume 5 GB/s) came out a decade ago.

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  • LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Moving large FLAC files onto my phone, and sending music data through USB into an audiophile DAC/amp. The higher the transfer speeds the better when you’re moving gigabytes of data from my computer to my phone.

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  • keeb420@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I do it all the time to pull pictures off my camera to my phone. I can picture other photographers doing the same.

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  • thisisdee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Photos and videos for professionals. These days phone cameras are good enough for at least a backup device and they’ll transfer to laptop using cable. But I’d assume those people are on the iPhone pro models

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  • Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For me it’s because I use my old phones as webcams.

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  • Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Only using the cable to sync with my Windows virtual machine with iTunes.

    Wouldn’t have it any other way as iCloud isn’t for me.

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  • HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Music and photos really. But they're not common and you can do that on USB 2 speeds. For me I just take it as an opportunity to slow charge my phone. And I do it so rarely anyway, usually when I'm changing to a new phone.

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  • ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Even when I sync to a computer, which is never these days, it'd typically just be over wifi.

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• circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is this because it’s a last minute design change of just the port, but they opted to also change out the USB controller on the pros?

  Or is this their new “16gb vs 128gb” upsell strategy?

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  • lustrum@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Based on the presentation it seems like the USB3 controller is on-die for the A17 pro bionic chip. So rather than re-engineer the chip for the A16 they’ve shipped it on the cheap, they could add an external controller or re-engineer the die.

    I’d bet next year all iphone models are USB3.

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    • krische@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      People will hate it, but it’s a very logical explanation

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    • GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Except several (non M1 iPads) have USB 3.1 already….

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    • stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah it appears like they are differentiating the high end phones with the latest SoC and giving the core phones the previous year’s chip. You get whatever the old chip had and next year’s iPhone 16 will get the A17 and all the features that includes.

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  • HurlingDurling@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s their, use iCloud for data transfer instead of usb strategy

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    • ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or, you know, wifi.

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  • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s to force people to pay for iCloud storage rather than keep files locally on their PC. That, and nothing else. No other phone in this price range still has USB 2.0, and most haven’t for a very long time.

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    • stevehobbes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know any Apple users who actually use the cable. iCloud is effortless.

      I don’t think it’s so much to force people to pay for storage insomuch as only people shooting 4k 60 long videos or people with very poor internet actually plug in to transfer data.

      I would hate plugging my phone into my computer even if it were instant.

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    • klyde@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Typical dumb iPhone user

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  • LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They may have had a contract for a certain number of chips for lightning and they’re using them in the lower iPhones instead of taking a loss.

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    • TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The old chips are on a larger node and cheaper to make. They are reserving the expensive chips for the expensive phone to save margin.

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    • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They also may simply not have had enough supply of chips for the newer iPhones

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• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Progression for we (Android), not for thee (iOS).

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  • nathris@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The first USB-C Android phones were also only USB 2.0.

    Although that was 8 years ago, when USB 3 was only just starting to become commonplace.

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  • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You just have to pay a little bit extra to get the speeds (that no one really uses on phones)

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    • amenotef@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well I don’t have an original quality cloud backup. So eventually I move the DCIM folder back to my PC.

      That being said. I haven’t tried “Nearby” to move a 30GB folder with a lot of items. Maybe that works fine already. (For few items it’s very fast).

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    • Afiefh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ll transfer a bunch of audio books to and from my phone every once in a while. Since they are FLAC files I certainly do appreciate the additional speed from having a protocol that’s not yet old enough to drink.

      And in case someone missed the reference: USB 2.0 was released in the year 2000.

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• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I just upgraded to a 13 from my XR with a dying battery, and while I’m glad overall that Apple has adopted USB-C, I’m glad it started at the 15 so I don’t have to buy a bunch of new cables and bricks. I have 5 cables- 1 in the house as a data cable, 2 in the house as charge cables, 1 in the car and 1 at work. Some of them are longer than others. I don’t want to have to repurchase all of that.

  But if you already are part of the USB-C ecosystem, absolutely. That said- this speed limiting thing is bullshit.

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  • Aatube@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just in case: it’s not artificial limiting, it’s the max 2.0 speed

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    • Afiefh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair, usb3 has been around since 2008. Surely apple could have afforded to pay 3 more cents per phone to support that.

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• Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It was just announced so, in the background its up to normal speed.

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