Submitted 1 year ago by StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website
https://www.slashfilm.com/1381786/roxann-dawson-chance-to-direct-star-trek-dropped-for-another-show/
Interesting extract from a longer /Film interview with in-demand director Roxann Dawson.
I appreciate how she speaks with respect for the shows of the new era.
The little blurb shown on this post is wrong:
Roxann Dawson was an actor on Star Trek: Voyager before she became a TV director*, although she’s never actually directed a Star Trek episode*.
She directed about 10% of all Enterprise episodes.
I thought she’d directed episodes of Voyager too.
Memory Alpha credits her with Voyager episodes ‘Riddles’ and ‘Workforce Part II’.
hit those fools with the knowledge
“With directing efforts on shows like “Voyager,” “Enterprise,” “Lost,” “The Americans,” and many more under her belt, she was most recently put in charge of two pivotal episodes of “Foundation” season 2, the Apple TV+ sci-fi series based on Isaac Asimov’s novels.”
I think they fixed the line and added the correct info now. That quote was from the article. Since the title says “new trek” I’m guessing they meant discovery/SNW/Picard as the trek the picked Foundation over to direct.
Wikipedia says she also directed 2 Voyager episodes.
Enterprise isn’t Star Trek, confirmed! (I kid, I kid.)
Enterprise is just a Quantum Leap episode.
She directed episodes of both “Enterprise” and Star Trek: Enterprise", which each lasted two seasons. The stealth name change was surprising back then.
It even mentions directing enterprise in the article. Bad editing.
I’m glad she’s getting work, but I wish it wasn’t on that dumpster fire.
from a not book reader (actually think I read them, but such a long time, I doubt you were even born yet), Foundation is Excellent fucking Science Fiction, and it's too bad you can't enjoy a production of this quality on this scale that just keeps getting incrementally better with every passing episode. it's really good televison, and the best show on tv right now.
It’s not really Foundation though is it. It’s one plot that has a passing resemblance to Foundation but misses a lot of the point and another plot that’s interesting but has nothing to do with any of the books about the Emperor. I didn’t find the first series enitely unenjoyable, but I’m annoyed they wasted the license to one of my favourite book series for a show that could have been anything.
With all due respect, I strongly disagree. I admit my views are coloured by my love of Asimov’s work, and their radical re-write has left a bad taste in my mouth. But when I analyse this show objectively I am left bewildered that anyone could call it “excellent fucking science fiction.”
Most of the actors are TERRIBLE. It was like watching wooden planks act. Instead of developing the story in any meaningful way, the directors chose to focus on disparate and dream-like sequences which appear to have little connection to each other. Bizarre pacing. They took the expansive time gaps and somehow made them confusing and meaningless. The dialogue is atrocious. The CGI is laughable. The accents are ridiculous. This is science fiction of the worst kind.
Lee Pace is the only reason I finished season one. Despite the horrific writing, he somehow pulls it off. The Expanse set the bar very high for sci-fi, but it showed us it can be done well. Foundation is fantasy in space. It’s Wheel of Time and Rings of Power in space bad.
I’ve just started the show, and I feel like from the outset they made it clear that a LOT of the show is creative fiction to fill in the gaps. I feel like a lot of people forget just how short the original trilogy is. F, F&E and SF, collectively, are like an 8 hour read! I don’t love everything the show has done (and some of the acting is atrocious) but I love how they chose what boils down to allusions in the books and focused whole episodes on what that would’ve looked like in real time.
I also really like how they are not afraid to completely abandon cliff hangers for several episodes at a time, while still keeping you invested in what’s happening. Asimov dwas notorious for that and did it SEVERAL times on the trilogy. Oh you wanna know what happens? Well I’ll tell you eventually, but first, here’s forty pages introducing brand new characters on a completely different planet…300 years in the future. Bitch.
I’m not the OP but I got a bone to pick with the way you wrote this comment.
actually think I read them, but such a long time, I doubt you were even born yet
Lmao what a weird thing to say. Congratulations on being older?
it’s too bad you can’t enjoy a production of this quality on this scale
True, I can’t enjoy a low quality show that focuses on meaningless drivel between poorly written and acted characters.
just keeps getting incrementally better with every passing episode. It’s really good televison, and the best show on tv right now
I wholeheartedly disagree on this. Even if it were good, which it really really really isn’t, shows like The Bear and Severance are on an entirely higher tier.
Asimov’s works are quite hard to adapt to movies or TV series, imo. If you have read him once, you probably know
I agree. I grew up reading Asimov. It ignited my passion for reading and sci fi. To see how badly they’ve butchered this material is devastating. It bears almost no resemblance. Like so many Hollywood projects, the only thing it has in common with the material is some character names. Everything else is creative writing. Because of course modern writers think they’re better than Isaac Asimov.
I don’t even like Asimov’s work (his characters are awful) and what I watched of the first season of Foundation was pretty bad. I can’t imagine what fans of his books must’ve thought.
I was hoping an adaption that shored up his weaknesses in characterization while finally showing me what all the fuss was about, and I didn’t get that at all.
And it’s a quite nice little episode. Foundation really got good in its second season.
So much better Sci-fi out there that would be amazing for a TV series or three.
Personally I work love to have a go at the Greg Mandel series or if I had all the money the Honor Harrington series.
the Honor Harrington series.
These books are fun, but they’re not good. Bad prose, ridiculous characters, childish storylines. It would almost have to be approached like Starship Troopers and treated as a parody of the genre.
They get worse as they go on, like most Weber series. A few books in and they seem to always devolve to coredumps of exposition and backstory marginally dressed up as meetings. Even the tactics and action diminishes to the point where I’ve read more compelling write ups of tabletop war games.
(And I’m someone who both war games and has read every single book in the Safehold series.)
I’d like to see CJ Cherryh’s Alliance-Union universe brought to the screen.
Downbelow station seems made to become a streaming series.
I just started listening through the series and all I can think about is how epic the TV show would be.
So she died while directing a Star trek episode?! RIP - at least she died doing what she loved.
/s
English usage varies. That usage of ‘passed’ isn’t top of mind for me.
Regrets to have evoked death for anyone.
No bad intention on your side means there is nothing to regret my fellow trekkie
sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Oh hell. So I’m a little bit tipsy, but I just saw the words “Roxanne Dawson (B’Elanna) passed” and got damn scared for a second
SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 1 year ago
I’m sober and did the same.
NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 1 year ago
Same here. “Turned down” would have worked better in my opinion.
Nmyownworld@startrek.website 1 year ago
Woke up, no coffee yet, and saw "Roxann Dawson (B’Elanna) passed … " Startled the heck out of me.
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
I am not tipsy and the title for me too. I was running a magic event in my game shop and let out an audible gasp causing several players to ask what was wrong.
theinspectorst@kbin.social 1 year ago
I had the same panic. That's not even the title of the article ('Voyager's Roxann Dawson Had A Chance To Direct Star Trek But Dropped It For Another Show') so, unless the website changed it, you have to wonder what OP was doing writing it that way.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 year ago
OP isn’t American. It’s not a universal euphemism.
Even having lived in the US at one point it’s not an automatic connection.
Canadians (at least in my experience) use the expression ‘passed away’ if at all to avoid saying ‘died.’
But also being Canadian, I’ve given my regrets elsewhere on this thread. And* I’m sorry* for the unintended shock to any and all who don’t share my dialect.
GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 1 year ago
The title got me as well. My heart dropped and then I reread and let a sigh of relief…