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French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle tracked via Strava activity in OPSEC failure

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Submitted ⁨⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨throws_lemy@lemmy.nz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://securityaffairs.com/189696/intelligence/french-aircraft-carrier-charles-de-gaulle-tracked-via-strava-activity-in-opsec-failure.html

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  • kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As funny as that is, something tells me it’s not that hard to spot an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean

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    • DaddleDew@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You have to be visual range, or radar range of you have one, which is the horizon plus a bit more depending how high above sea level your are and how tall your target is.

      If you’re on a ship, unless you’re using an advanced radar that bounces signals against the ionosphere your radar horizon is surprisingly short, something around 12 nautical miles give or take. And the sea is big and Iran is quite far.

      This is one big reason why aircraft are used for surveillance at sea. They can go much higher than any ship’s radar antenna mast every could be which significantly increases their detection and identification ranges. They can also travel out to see when further.

      Right now because if this, Iran now has the intel that the French carrier is approaching without even having to send an aircraft out to look for it. If they even ever have the ability to at this point.

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      • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So satellites can see my truck’s plate but an aircraft carrier and it’s escrow fleet are too… Small?

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      • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        why don’t ships at sea simply disguise themselves as a rock or shrubbery?

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      • gnutrino@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Because if this fuck up, Iran now has the intel that the French carrier is approaching without even having to send an aircraft out to look for it.

        It wasn’t exactly a secret, France publicly announced it was going to move to the eastern med

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    • njordomir@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I saw the location on one of those “war dashboards” a day or two ago. Can’t have been that secret.

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  • merde@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Merde! Macron’s bodyguards reveal his location by sharing Strava data

    An investigation by Le Monde has shown that members of the Security Group for the Presidency of the Republic (GSPR) have been openly displaying their location on the popular software during their workout sessions.

    www.theregister.com/…/macron_location_strava/

    will they learn one day?

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    • Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Its kinda the best way to make politicians care about privacy. Make them feel watched by the big brother they’re trying to implement

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      • Tower@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Unfortunately, this usually just means they find a way to exempt themselves and still support the data collection

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  • HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Same thing happen with unlisted FOBs in Afghanistan and the U.S. army. running apps have compromised opsec of a surprising amount of facilities.

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    • Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yep. This has only been an issue for nearly a decade.

      The Strava Heat Map and the End of Secrets

      The revelations began unspooling at a rapid pace after Nathan Ruser, a student studying international security at the Australian National University, began posting his findings via Twitter on Saturday afternoon. In a series of images, Ruser pointed out Strava user activities potentially related to US military forward operating bases in Afghanistan, Turkish military patrols in Syria, and a possible guard patrol in the Russian operating area of Syria.

      Other researchers soon followed up with a dizzying array of international examples, based on cross-referencing Strava user activity with Google Maps and prior news reporting: a French military base in Niger, an Italian military base in Djibouti, and even CIA “black” sites. Several experts observed that the Strava heatmap seemed best at revealing the presence of mostly Western military and civilian operations in developing countries.

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    • BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I remember reading that. My brother is in the AF, and through some system, they can get gear like Garmin Fenix watches that does GPS tracking and uploads to their cloud and can be synced with Strava. It’s wild that stuff like this isn’t strictly monitored to prevent this exact scenario.

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    • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And here we are, fifteen years later.

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why does it look exactly like my signature!?

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Apparently strava is for posting your runs on social

    That sailor now got the runs

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    • halfapage@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      must have been a bomb run

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      • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Eyoooo

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  • mrl1@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not like an aircraft carrier is hard to detect anyways. And I doubt you can register Strava activities in a submarine.

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  • Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Imagine losing a carrier cuz one of the soldiers forgot to read the privacy notice on their smartwatch

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    • RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Imagine losing a carrier because a major world power’s military IT security is so incompetent they’re allowing sailors on active deployment to have unfettered internet access.

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      • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There was a similar incident where they found a sailor on one US Navy ship had their own Starlink terminal because they were broadcasting an SSID. At the end of the day, you can’t fix stupid.

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      • Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think this is more of a consequence that the things one buys now aren’t only serving their paying customers interest

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      • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        One of the early successes of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was when they took out a barracks of foreign volunteers because around 40 of them were ex-british soldiers and Russian intelligence linked their phones to historical records collected outside British army bases.

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  • PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    OSMand ftw

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  • hesh@quokk.au ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why is it zig zagging?

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    • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      that’s how it looks when you walk in circles in a vessel that’s moving

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      • Kapirotto@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I thought the same at first, but comparing to the map scale, I think that would mean the ship is crazy giant (like slightly bigger than the small loops in the track). If you compare that to the islands, it would mean the ship is bigger than many islands. I’m not sure why it’s zigzagging, but I would bet it’s something else…

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      • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Wow. Can you infer vessel speed by assuming the run always concluded at the start position? The bottom line doesn’t meet back at the top line because the ship and runner were going in opposite directions.

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    • couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He’s running up and down the deck

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  • fenrasulfr@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Gotta get those laps in XD

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  • Danarchy@lemmy.nz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    iambic heptameter ass route

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