Submitted 3 weeks ago by lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://terriblesoftware.org/2025/10/24/chatgpt-said-this-is-lazy/
A lot of times I feel like its more than lazy, its rude.
Either its something I’m supposed to know and you think I’m dumber than chatgpt or to dumb to look it up myself.
Or it’s something you’re supposed to know and don’t think I’m worth the time to give me your opinion.
Either way, feels like a fuck you.
Yep. Someone on another team at my work does this constantly.
Them: I’m having a problem with x Me: Ok, do this Them: But Copilot said…
Then why are you even asking me? Stop bothering me and wasting my time.
I 100% agree. To me it sort of feels like that old “Let me Google that for you” website. Like I wouldn’t have asked you something if I wanted you to just prompt ChatGPT. I want your informed opinion. But I guess informed opinions are hard to come by these days.
Someone literally copy and pasted a whole ChatGPT comment in an email to me
You’re right to feel insulted. LLMs are verbose and unreliable often enough that you have to check any work that comes out (or be negligent).
So what’s usually happening is someone is saving their time by spending yours. They saved the time normally needed to write a thoughtful reply by shifting the time and cognitive cost of reading and verifying to you, with AI as an excuse (often not without condescension, which is a type of “virtue signaling” driven by c-suite AI boosting). The slop output looks like “work product,” but is neither - it took no work and is a facade of a “product” because it’s unverified.
They are being selfish, and it is objectively an insulting act.
It’s a problem if they claimed it as their own or it didn’t add value, and (2) it wasted your time as a result.
Sometimes the experts just know how to search more effectively in their domain (which nowadays is increasingly using the right context/prompt with some AI, and formerly known as Google-Fu before google search turned to shit)
To be genuinely helpful and polite, they’ll do a little legwork to respond personally and accurately… others might just be dicks who don’t respect your time.
Try not to be that dick yourself, though. If you are asking someone for help, show your work and provide relevant info so they don’t waste their time.
Put them on a list where any and every email they send you gets fed into GPT and replied to without you ever reading it, then to make sure they know that explain what’s happening in the signature.
I’m flabbergasted that they admit that ChatGPT said it, rather than copy-pasting it and pretending it’s their own work and hoping you don’t read it closely.
Even plagiarism has become lazy these days.
Some people seem to use it as an appeal to authority. This only works if you think ChatGPT is an authority on anything, though.
I suppose you’re right, which is odd to me as the phrase “ChatGPT says…” automatically makes me question the validity of the information
I find some of my friends and family say it as sort of a caveat. It’s like saying, “here’s the bare minimum ‘research’ I did. Take it with a huge grain of salt…” At least, that’s how I interpret it from their tone of voice since they sound like they feel bad for admitting it.
I have a work colleague who does the copy pasting. He asks me how I can tell when he’s using AI to write git commit messages when there’s a sudden spike in capitalised words, correct grammar, emojis, bullet points (and add in that the message sometimes has nothing to do with what’s in the changes). It’s infuriating when he uses it in a discussion. I thought he’s lack in skills to make himself understood was bad, but arguing essentially with a chatbot is so much worse.
ChatGPT isn’t on the team.
Except that when someone pastes “ChatGPT thinks that {wall of AI-generated text}”
That person put ChatGPT on the team. And if there was no human input, the competition is free to use that and mock it word for word. Use fear, uncertainty, and doubt to convince your team that anyone can use that, including your competition, if it is published.
The U.S. Copyright Office’s January 2025 report on AI and copyrightability reaffirms the longstanding principle that copyright protection is reserved for works of human authorship. Outputs created entirely by generative artificial intelligence (AI), with no human creative input, are not eligible for copyright protection.
Sure… copy & paste is copy & paste.
However, LLMs can help to formulate a scattered braindump of thoughts and opinions into a coherent argument / position, fact check claims, and help to highlight faulty thinking.
I am happy if someone uses AI first to come up with a coherent message, bug report, or question.
I am annoyed if it’s ill-researched/understood nonsense, AI assisted or not.
Within my company, I am contributing to an AI-tailored knowledge base, so that people (and AI) can efficiently learn just-in-time.
I am happy if someone uses AI first to come up with a coherent message, bug report, or question.
LLMs do not add anything of value to bug reports, they add unecessary padding requiring me to filter out the marketing speech to get down to the issue. I would much rather have the raw brain dump of theirs.
If somebody sends me their ChatGPT text I now ask them to send me their prompt instead so I don’t have to waste my time on their lengthy text that has the same amount of information as the original.
I am annoyed if it’s ill-researched/understood nonsense, AI assisted or not.
Being coherent is rarely the problem in bug reports, it’s the user not properly typing out what the actual issue is.
I have gotten bullet point list bug reports that read like they were written by an insane person that were more useful than a nicely written ChatGPT message with 0 information in it.
Heh. I often use LLMs to strip out the unnecessary and help tighten my own points. I fully agree that most people are terrible at writing bug reports (or asking for meaningful help), and LLMs are often GIGO.
I think the rule applies that if you cannot do it yourself, then you can’t expect an LLM to do it better, simply because you cannot judge the result. In this case, you are more likely to waste other people’s time.
On the other side, it is possible to have agents give useful feedback on bug reports, request tickets, etc. and guide people (and their personal AI) to provide all the needed info and even automatically resolve issues. So long as the agent isn’t gatekeeping and a human is able to be pulled in easily. And honestly, if someone really wants to speak to a person, that is OK and shouldn’t require jumping through hoops.
I didn’t read your comment, but deepseek said this:
Well said. You’ve nailed the key distinction: AI as a thought amplifier vs. thought substitute. The value depends entirely on the user’s foundation of knowledge. Your approach—building a curated knowledge base so people (and AI) can learn just-in-time—is exactly right. It sets everyone up for success by grounding the AI in truth. Smart strategy.
I haven’t read this either but I hope it helps.
The funny thing is, you rarely notice those who actually use it effectively in formulating comms, or writing code, or solving real world problems. It’s the bad examples (as you demonstrate) that stick out and are highlighted for criticism.
Meanwhile, power users are learning how to be more effective with AI (as it is clearly not a given), embracing opportunities as they come, and sometimes even reaping the rewards themselves.
When you use let AI do your talking for your then you are voluntarily making yourself redundant.
I find the exact opposite, as I use AI more, I can specifically tell when others use it and try to hide it more easily. People at work do it frequently.
A Little time ago I overheard someone saying "...and not even the AI knew it!" they really have been convinced it's like those in the movies.
It is lazy, and infuriating as it becomes mainstream.
I’ve had a Google Home mini in my house for about 7 years now. I love it for quick answers when my partner and I are talking, especially sports. Asking a quick “Hey Google, how many goals does Alex Tuch have” and it just says it quickly and we continue our conversation without really stopping.
But to actually get complex answers? Both my partner and I are highly intelligent people. We can find anything we need to. The last thing we’ll ever fucking do is even trust AI to get it right, let alone be the source of our information.
Shit, even my Google home has fucked up sports stats because AI is dumb as shit.
I know sports scores aren’t all that critical even if it’s wrong, but aren’t you worried that it’s just making up some random info?
It’s the same as “Google said this”. Before AI, Google could say nothing, it’s a search engine. Same with gpt - it’s a tool to access information from different sources.
Just having information out in the Internet / on a search index / accessed by LLM doesn’t make it relevant or credible…
And what buffles me: it’s pretty easy to set up gpt to cite sources and provide the links, filtering through sources that a user trusts. Why neither of my friends do it? Why “gpt said” is even an argument in a discussion?..
Except people just straight up copy paste gpt output. At the very least people would say “I googled and got this result and that result.” We’ve taken what was minimal work and made it minimaler.
Except information from Google was human made at least to some degree. With LLMs there is no guarantee
… Buffalo buffalo buffles
I got this response from a 70+ Catholic Priest. Quite literally nothing in this world is sacred or real anymore.
Considering that despite going over lvl70, he decided with Catholic Priest instead of Saint,Warlock or Archmage, it should already be making you question his decision making ability.
“According to leading language models…”
“This idea was tested in a state-of-the-art simulation” - Jerry Smith
Counter point - I say it to mean ‘don’t trust this shit but since we’re out of ideas, we can check this out’.
A simulation is only as accurate as the person’s ability to rationalize. It should only be used by people who can already out think it, because you need to be able to challenge and correct it.
YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I’m getting that more and more. “I asked ChatGPT and it said”. Dude, we work for the same company and I could have typed that in, and maybe I did. I wanted your experience with it, that’s why I asked you.
Make sure they know they just lost input right ms the next time. No, I don’t ask Harry, he just quoted GPT last time, and I’d already asked it this time so there was no reason to involve him. Nothing worse for a lead than people not wanting them to lead because they’ve abdicated the job to spicy autocorrect.
Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
To me it’s like sending the “let me google that for you” link to answer a question. It’s just bad form. I don’t want your whole reasoning trace man, i just want to know what you understand of it and maybe you’ll catch some detail i’m missing or whatever. It’s simple, i won’t read LLM output, my colleagues know it and i get shit for it but no i am not digesting this material for you. Give me a 3 bullet-point version in your own words, the point is not just in the data exchange it’s also to make sure you are aware of the answer and we have a common truth.
Or failing that, just give me the fucking prompt and at least i’ll know if you understand the question.
ulterno@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
This one’s really nice. I should make this my go to response to anyone doing that.
AliasAKA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think this is the way. A certain number of times of “[coworker] wasn’t asked because they only respond with LLMs, so I just ask the LLMs directly. I am not sure what [coworker]’s expertise is anymore, I just don’t consult them” and I suspect coworker may in fact stop responding with LLMs.
YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Maybe. But they may just paste it without GPT attribution, so we’ll see.