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Your Phone is an Entire Computer

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Submitted ⁨⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://medhir.com/blog/your-phone-is-an-entire-computer

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  • eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People willingly buy blatantly proprietary systems, then publicly muse why they don’t have freedom to do with them what they want.

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Phones are computers. Phones are the most popular personal computers in the world. Many people only have a phone and no other computers.

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    • Jumbie@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s me. Outside work, I dumped PCs a decade back and have lived a much better digital life.

      I seriously get annoyed at the amount of work it takes to keep a PC running.

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      • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I hate using a phone. It’s small, the screen is tiny, the keyboard sucks (all touchscreen keyboards suck), you can’t have more than one thing in the tiny screen at a time (yes split screen exists and Android has freeform windows, but they suck even more).

        A desktop is a breeze to use. It feels liberating to use after being on a phone.

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      • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mainly just turn mine on. Not a lot of work.

        I mean, it’s been a lot of work lately because I’m learning a new OS and mucking about with shuffling some data around on a couple different drives, but for the last 5 years or so, the “work” involved in keeping my desktop running was mainly plugging it in again after moving to a new apartment.

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      • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ugh sounds like my nightmare. I try to keep the phone away and only use desktops or laptops. I just use the phone for calls, texts, photos, Lemmy/rss and some light web browsing.

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      • Strive7307@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I seriously get annoyed at the amount of work it takes to keep a PC running.

        Can you elaborate more on that? In my experience unless you set up a complicated NAS or home server setup maintaining a personal computer doesn’t require much upkeep. I prefer it over a phone because of the physical keyboard and superior window / tab / organization options.

        PS: Wrote this comment from my phone anyway 🥲

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They have been since the beginning.
    That’s literally why I got an OG Motorola Droid. I said to myself “I can have a full computer in my pocket!”

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    • JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The whole point of the article is that the new MacBooks are running on iPhone hardware. And that therefore there’s no reason for you not being able to install MacOS on your iPhone. Even your old droid was locked down and you were not able to install a real OS which would have given you the freedom to run what you want without restrictions

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      • artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I remember one time I had a coworker sit down next to me with her MacBook, iPhone, iPad and iWatch and that was an “aha!” moment for me. She had spent like 5x more than she would have if 1 or 2 devices could do all of those things.

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Its wasn’t. I rooted it, installed a few OS’s, it even ran Linux. Since the very beginning, the only limits on smartphones have been what software ‘they’ want you to run.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The only difference is UI. I operate my phone in my hand with my thumb, not on my lap or on a desk from a keyboard.

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    • penguin@lemmy.pixelpassport.studio ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I went to the Verizon store to buy an iPhone when the droid first launched, the rep said “you don’t want that phone, check this one out” and showed me the droid. So glad I didn’t get roped into that ecosystem.

      I still miss CyanogenMod dearly…

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yah. It had customizations nobody has anymore.

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    • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I had an Atrix 4G back in the day.

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      • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For me, it was around 2013 an iPad nano, thinking how awesome having an iPhone with unlimited internet would be, because I could listen anything on demand on the go Then I got my 4s as first self bought iPhone.
        I realised, how macOS like it is, as I had jailbroken it.

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  • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “right to root” would prevent so much eWaste.
    I would love a variant that is like, if you stop delivering security and minor fixes/backports to a device, you have to give access to root or better even to the bootloader.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      better yet, open source it when it gets abandoned.

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    • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The problem is that it allows users to detect when they’re connected to a phony cell tower like the ones police and ICE use to intercept communications, and we Can’t Have That.

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  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It would technical possible for Apple to have dual boot, and you could boot macOS when you connect to an external display. But I guess it would not be good for business

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    • anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not even dual boot. The core OS is the same. Just have two UI. One for phone one for desktop.

      Apple will never do this because they sell hardware.

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    • pie_enjoyer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That wouldn’t be even needed. Just add back macos features to iOS and iPadOS

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      • timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It would be quite nice if they added some MacOS features back to MacOS instead of trying desperately to turn it into a mobile phone OS.

        That said, Sequoia is so objectively awful it finally gave me the kick I needed to nuke my MacBook Air and install Asahi, and I’m genuinely really impressed. The only shame is having to waste 80gb of disk for a MacOS partition that I’ll never use, but otherwise it’s actually good enough to be a daily driver.

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      • sunbeam60@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s what they’re doing. They clearly would prefer people to move to iOS, that smells a bit like MacOS, as it’s a damn sight more profitable to both sell you hardware and software 30% cuts.

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  • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I will risk dying of laughter if THIS is what finally pisses off the Apple cult.

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    • becausechemistry@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We have been complaining about this shit for YEARS.

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      • NeilBru@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And yet… you still… never mind. Not worth it.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are “pissed off, not the same, Jobs wouldn’ta dunit” sentiments for almost every new product by Apple.

      So I don’t think anything will change much.

      Anyway, this is a return to roots. They were, you know, a mainstream consumer oriented company at some point. With an implicit but almost explicit claim that “we don’t do the crap others do”.

      I’m optimistic. It’s quality attacking quantity. We’ve had a personal computer market with quantity winning over quality every damn year since about 2003, and it has been getting worse and worse. If the pendulum is starting to move in the opposite direction, it’s very cool.

      And yes, megabytes of RAM are quantity.

      But admittedly I’m a couple weeks’ old convert.

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  • Xylight@lemdro.id ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Im surely not the only one who thinks this article is ai generated? it spams the exact same structure and has the typical smells

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  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    general computing finally died to capitalism

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    • redditmademedoit@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos.

      Has there ever been a time when computer geeks weren’t consider a weird group of outsiders?

      BTW, I was raised on MS-DOS and it didn’t help my computer literacy one bit (heheh). I still can barely navigate my computer in the CLI, much less build anything or do anything cool from some internalized “mental model” of how a computer works. Meanwhile, there are a bunch of toddlers running around with Arduinos and doing all manners of mind blowing shit.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’ve built a generation that can’t extract a zip file without a dedicated app and calls it innovation.

    I mean, a .tar would have made sense as example, unzip is also a tool (“app”). And not merely for convenience, the format is not simple. Unlike tar, which you could dd to unpack.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The quote is funny for me, I can’t extract a zip file without a dedicated application, I don’t talk the language of moisture vaporators deflate, and certainly not fast enough.

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  • blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This model is absolutely short-circuiting the brains of the Apple haters. It upends everything they’ve been complaining about for a decade; all the same arguments that had merit 10 years ago but were mostly resolved 5 years ago (meanwhile, little said about the things Apple currently is terrible about.)

    This laptop is:

    • cheap
    • repairable
    • runs a full os

    It is not:

    • upgradable, but what laptop is these days.

    Seriously, it address three of the biggest complaints against Apple historically, and we’re supposed to be mad the phone doesn’t runs desktop OS? Was under the impression the phone didn’t run a full OS because of technical limitations?

    Apple could’ve launched a $599 laptop that ran iPadOS, but they didn’t and yet there’s still complaints.

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    • datendefekt@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It is not:

      • upgradable, but what laptop is these days?

      I got a used Framework for under 600€, upgraded the keyboard, speakers and motherboard. The old motherboard is now one of my home servers in a dedicated case.

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    • voidsignal@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      upgradable, but what laptop is these days?

      Oh, you poor ignorant fanboy…

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      • blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Fair enough, enthusiast laptops do. I can’t think of a sub $1,000 mainstream consumer laptop that is.

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    • pie_enjoyer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bro thinks macbook neo is upgradeable

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    • Despair@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ifixit.com/…/macbook-neo-is-the-most-repairable-m…

      The laptop is built on an A18 Pro, a mobile chip first seen in the iPhone 16 Pro, which limits the machine to 8 GB of RAM. Storage comes in 256 or 512 GB, and whichever one you buy is the one you keep.

      www.canadacomputers.com/en/search?s=sodim&filter[… They could have easily made the RAM and Storage user serviceable/upgradeable, and from what I can find, they don’t provide a way for the enduser to expand storage with a secondary SSD/HDD either, so you’re either forced to carry around an external hard drive for a product that is meant to be portable, or use cloud storage where you might not always have reliable access to the internet/data caps.

      Anecdotal, but the only component that has ever failed on me is a hard drive, if that happened to me on the new mac book, it would be e-waste.

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      • blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not allowing a 1TB option certainly is a choice, and one that can be criticized. But I don’t think it’s fair to say they could have “easily” made the RAM upgrade (certainly not user upgradable) at that price point. It used the A series because they make billions of them, and ram has not been upgradable in them.

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  • FrChazzz@lemmus.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Makes me think of either the Fairphone or the Nothing Phone that originally advertised that it could be used as a desktop computer thanks to USB-C ports and I thought that was a brilliant notion. I really don’t see why Apple couldn’t just do the same. I mean, I can see why (DAT MONAY!) but it would be awesome for folks to have such flexibility with their devices.

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    • voidsignal@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Been doing that with a Librem 5 for many years.

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      • FrChazzz@lemmus.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Librem! That’s the phone I was thinking of, not the others

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No duh.

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  • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ll care about climate change the day they do.

    But every time I need to throw away perfectly good electronics makes me resentful of the idea that climate change is our fault any further than the fact these fucking people breathe air in Minecraft.

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  • Ferrous@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So are SIM cards.

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