Cheapest 14x4tb NAS

⁨146⁩ ⁨likes⁩

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨rook@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/2b2bdf5d-557c-48a8-88bb-b9f5baee6509.avif

I am trying to build my final NAS build as a beginner.

I have a 6x4tb dell server, but it’s not enough.

I am currently trying to build the final boss of my nasses. 4x14tb with truenas with raid

I am unsure of what parts to buy as I am a complete beginner.

I found a case that can hold all 14 drives.

I need a motherboard, CPU, ram, PSU

I am on a budget, kind of.

What motherboard do you recommend? Pulled from a workstations with CPU and ram?

What CPU to run all these drives?

What ram and how much? 16? 32? 128+? Ecc, non ecc?

Power supply: 850w or more?

I would appreciate any help on this build, I want to build this as soon as possible.

Thanks

source

Comments

Sort:hotnew top

Flipper@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You say you are on a budget. Yet you talk about 128 Gigs of ram.

Maybe you should clarify what your budget is.

source
- Jolteon@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Maybe the budget was planned out before RAM prices spiked. 128 gigs of used server RAM was not that expensive before that happened.
  
  source
philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Where are people getting drives at $10/tb?

Where I live it’s $50/tb

source
- remon@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  In the past!
  
  My 20TB drives cost me $17 per TB 2 years ago. The exact same model is now at $33 per TB :(
  
  source
  - philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s I sane how much it all is
    
    source
blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Why 16 drives? Do you already have 16 4gb drives?

source
- JGrffn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I also went with 16 drives, but they were 20TB each. OP, if you don’t already have those 4tb drives, reconsider the amount and sizes. 4tb can’t be the price sweet spot for HDDs…
  
  source
  - Humanius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The price sweet spot for HDDs appears to be as high as 16 to 24 TB at the moment (at least here in the Netherlands).
    You can get a 24TB Seagate Barracuda for €479,- right now, which comes out to about €20 / TB.
    
    source
  - Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If I ever got a lucky Amazon mistake where I order one 4 TB drive but a box of 16 does, I would set up a full *arr stack.
    
    Probably won’t be that lucky though.
    
    source
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

No more Storage Full warnings.

Is that a challenge?

source
- ergonomic_importer@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Just one more drive bro. Please one just one more
  
  source
  - belazor@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Bro I can quit adding things to Sonarr whenever I want I just need one more drive bro last time bro I swear bro
    
    source
- ulterno@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Fix it by simply turning off “Low Disk Space” warnings in System Settings.
  Mix that with keeping your / and your home cache, local, share etc directories in a non-data drive and you get no warnings. Only errors when a write fails.
  
  source
hesh@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I would consider fewer, larger drives

source
- frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I would seek the best price per terabyte while still allowing redundancy.
  
  source
  - hesh@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    True, but I would factor in some kind of negative to cost/longevity from increasing number of drives. Even if 16x4 is a bit cheaper than 4x16 today, will it die faster?
    
    source
    -> View More Comments
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You’re talking a lot of storage - it might be worth investing in some low-end server hardware. A Dell tower or something, maybe one off eBay if you’re looking to cut costs.

I picked up a PowerEdge T110II a long time ago and it’s been… flawless. Just a simple server with a 4x4TB RAID5. No hardware problems, easy to manage. It costs a bit more - but server hardware is often just more reliable and for a NAS that’s job #1. This server just runs.

I just upgraded the memory in it to 32GB for ~$100USD. Before that it had 8GB. I needed more for restic doing backups. I probably could have gotten away with 16GB but I figured I’d max it out for that price.

source
vane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s better to buy 4x 16-20TB drives and expand storage instead of buying 16 4TB drives. Also 16 3.5 inch HDD drives draw around 200W of power alone.

source
blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Honestly, I bet it would be cheaper to replace a few of the 4 TB drives in your current set up with larger drives.

source
farcaller@fstab.sh ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You really want the ECC ram and the motherboard/cpu combo that supports it.

source
Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I wouldn’t use more than 4 or 6 disks in a home environment. Specially with mechanical drivers, power consumption 24/7 would get me very worried.

I run 4 x 8Tb SSDs, not cheap, but solid, low power AND low heat (even more important).

Consider also heat dissipation as most likely at home you don’t have a constant temperature and humidity, so many spinning disks can suffer from heat, and that will kill them faster

Longevity… With so much space I would expect to keep it running a decade or more… So factor in 10x365x24 hours of operation, energy consumed, heat dissipation and failure rate.

source
- SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  20W/drive means 200Wh for 10 drives. That’s 30x24x0.2 kWh each month. At 0.20€/kWh, that’s 28€/month, cheaper than a 20TB Hetzner box. That’s assuming all drives are always spinning, as an idle drive uses more like 5W.
  
  source
  - Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    10x4tb = 40tb can be achieved with 4 12tb drives (actually 36tb in raid5) .
    
    Doubtfully those 12tb uses much more power than the 4tb ones, each. So the 28€/m probably cut down to 14,€/m counted in excess.
    
    Considering 120m (10y) of uptime, you should save enough to justify cutting down from 10 to 4 drives.
    
    source
    -> View More Comments
linuxguy@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Take a look at https://diskprices.com/ for the best price per TB. Backblaze has been pretty great about sharing their hardware specs and builds. Maybe get some ideas from them https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-server/

source
- B0rax@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They already have the disks, they are looking for the rest of the build.
  
  source
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Honestly, you might want to look into proper server hardware. There are many out there that support dozens of drives, assuming you’re willing to go with a blade. Even if you explicitly want a tower, server hardware is where you’re going to get the best support.

You’ll most likely also want to increase the size of your drives. Assuming you’re being smart and utilizing RAID, you’re going to be losing a bunch of that storage.

source
q@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That sounds like a nightmare tbh. So many failure points, so much heat and power usage, and cables.

I have 6 out of 8 bays filled and still feel like it’s a lot to worry about and manage if something fails.

source
Bloefz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ehhh one thing I’ve learned over the years, it doesn’t matter how much storage I buy. Within a few weeks it’ll be full.

source
LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Just in case you dont know most drives aren’t rated for this many in one case.

source
- fizzle@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah earlier in my journey I had a bunch of cheap drives packed in close. They didn’t last. Heat kills drives.
  
  source
  - LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Oh it’s the heat? I thought it was vibration (I actually don’t know).
    
    source
    -> View More Comments
- ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Also they aren’t rated to get screamed at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
  
  source
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Others have mentioned power - you may want to do some math on drive cost vs power consumption. There’ll be a drive size point that is worth the cost because you’ll use fewer drives which consume less power than more drives.

Having built a number of systems, I’m a LOT more conscious of power draw today for things that will run 24/7. Like my ancient NAS draws about 15 watts at idle with 5 drives (It will spin down drives).

More drives will always mean more power, so maybe fewer but larger drives makes sense. You may pay more up front, but monthly power costs never go away.

source
Ferrous@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Hey, you basically defined my system.

Truenas scale machine running 4x 16TB drives. I use a cheap rosewill 4u server rack case. It has hot swap drive bays in front. Big plus.

The brain is an amd 5950x running on an asrock x570 steel legend w/ 128GB of the cheapest crucial DDR4 ECC I could find. Also running an rtx 2080 for jellyfin transcoding.

My consumer mobo is the bottleneck. Given how my end goal is to have a 10gb nic and an LSI card for more sata ports, I’m going to have to get creative with m.2 ports. I might plug a 10gb nic into an m.2 port.

PSU was a 1kW fractal platinum rated. Way overkill, but the high efficiency is key.

You’ll notice my build uses a lot of gaming parts - i simply harvested my old parts when I upgraded my gaming PC. Despite this, it still idles under 200 watts. My point is not that you should seek out gaming parts, but if you happen to have any on hand, they could be effectively leveraged given price increases on new parts.

The biggest thing is: Use ECC. This is non negotiable for your setup. ECC saved me a couple weeks ago when my 5950x shot craps, randomly. So far no issues after increasing to a set voltage. ZFS and ECC go together like peas in a pod.

source
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
What’s the case? Does it has the ability to hot-swap drives (even with a side panel off)? It can come really handy if one of your drives fails.

source
Humanius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You say you are on a budget, but there is no real clarification what that budget is. That said, I will assume that the budget is tight, and you are looking for the best bang for the buck.

The case looks like a good option, assuming that those are 3.5 inch bays.
It should give you plenty of space for expansion in the future if you want to do that

RAM prices are pretty nuts right now, so I would definitely not got balls to the wall with 128 GB of RAM. 16 GB of RAM should be more than plenty for a NAS server. Maybe you can even get away with 8GB? I’m using 16 GB of DDR3 RAM in my NAS server (which is also running Jellyfin and Nextcloud) and it’s running fine.

Speaking of DDR3… Have you considered buying your CPU, motherboard and RAM second hand? From what I hear the prices of DDR3 RAM are not nearly as elevated as those of DDR4 and DDR5 RAM, and DDR3 is plenty sufficient for a simple NAS.

Be sure not to skimp on the power supply. Most consumer power supplies are not built for only running HDDs. I’m running a Corsair RM550x in my server, which is capable of supplying 130W on the 5V rail.

Good luck with your server build!

source

Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters	More Letters
NAS	Network-Attached Storage
PSU	Power Supply Unit
RAID	Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
ZFS	Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity

[Thread #156 for this comm, first seen 11th Mar 2026, 21:50] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

source

Hiro8811@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Is that a fractal define 5XL? Looks similar, well anyway if you plan on using zfs the more ram the better.

source
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Have a look at the guides in serverbuild.net forums such as forums.serverbuilds.net/t/guide-nas-killer-5-0/

The series of post that is Nas killer (4.0 5.0 6.0) etc. they list a bunch of CPUs and motherboards with approx eBay prices along with ram disks etc etc. I used it as a reference when building my cheap Nas for home, mainly the motherboard/CPU sections.

source
sefra1@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I have never build a machine like that, so I guess I can’t help you much, but like another comment said, it seems like a pain to maintain, I usually have trouble with sata cables losing contact, with that setup there are many cables keen to lose contact.

As for ram I wouldn’t worry about it at all, unless you use zfs 4GB should be more than enough, even 2 or less. Ram is expensive now, so you may want to consider using as little as possible unless you already have it laying around. Does truenas use zfs? If so you may want to use other fs like btrfs or test how well zfs works with the ram you have. I’m not sure zfs is worth the trouble. I wouldn’t buy extra ram.

As for CPU I don’t think it matters much, but like I said, I have never tried your setup. But even an ancient sandy bridge should work fine if it’s just a personal has, with HDDs even with encryption. Works fine on my nas.

Also, if you have access to free old computers you can try a ghetto setup where each each computer only handles 4 drives and then you join them together on a master computer either via nbd or nvme other Ethernet (works on sata too). But that seems like an even bigger pain to maintain and increases your power consumption by a lot.

source
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
ABSOLUTELY ECC memory, 32gb or higher if you can afford it these days as TrueNAS does benefit from a decent cache space, especially with so many drives to spread data slices across.

Realistically unless you expect multiple concurrent users, any 4 core or higher CPU from 2015-on will be plenty of power to manage the array. No need for dedicated server hardware unless the price is right

I have a Dell PowerEdge t3 SOHO/small business server tower that I gutted and turned into a 5x8tb config. It only has a middling 4 core Xeon 1225v5 and I never get above 50% CPU usage when maxing the drives out. More CPU is needed if you’re doing filesystem compression or need multiple concurrent users.

source
- Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ve never run into issues running desktop hardware without ECC as servers - since the 90’s.
  
  I just don’t think the extra cost is worthwhile - I’m not running systems/services that will have catastrophic failures without ECC (or have weird bitflips that would corrupt some transaction).
  
  source
  - empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ve never ran into issues either, but generally in any situation where data integrity is somewhat important, ECC is a very good idea. Its never a problem until suddenly it is.
    
    I don’t give a crap about my Minecraft server having ECC, but a storage server where cached data gets written to disk, I’d rather have ECC ensure nothing gets corrupted.
    
    source