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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Beep@lemmus.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally

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  • acetanilide@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Can someone help me figure out if matrix/element would work for what I need? So far it looks decent, but my main issue is figuring out integrations/bots.

    Is there a way to integrate something like PluralKit there?

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    • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Matrix does have a bot API, but there is not even close to as robust an ecosystem of bots to choose from. Whatever you want is probably possible, but depending on your needs you may have to write it yourself.

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      • acetanilide@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That makes sense. Thank you!!

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    • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I have many friends have that ported their bots from other platforms to Matrix, but these are technically capable people that created bots to begin with so YMMV.

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    • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Is Matrix a self-hosted alternative to Discord? I’ve been looking for one but the closest I can find is RocketChat, which is meant more for corporate environments. I’m going to be launching a radio station for Lemmy soon and I need a suitable solution for chat platform that I can integrate with my website (and eventually app).

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      • sudoer777@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Matrix is sort of a mishmash of things, not a fan of the UX but it has federation and encryption and isn’t Discord

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  • drascus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah I’m only just barely lurking on discord I have no problem leaving.

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    • whelk@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’d miss the history in my family server, but we’d get over it. If I can convince everyone else to move

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  • renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    that’s a great excuse to finally delete my discord account

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, same.
      It’s about the only megacorp thing I actively use (beside Steam, tho purely for downloading games), but I won’t help normalise & support such bs (ofc I never bought Nitro bcs I’m not supporting bs monetisation).

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  • big_slap@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I set up a mumble server on my cloud computer, it isnt bad!

    hardest part is going to be convincing people to switch over. it was so difficult to migrate people from Xbox and ps parties to discord, but it is what it is lol

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  • IronKrill@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    One of my friends hit me with the “they already know everything about me” line on this one and literally said they’d give Discord “anything”, so I don’t think I’m gonna convince my group to move y’all. At least my best friend is educated enough at this point to be interested in moving so I’ll still be investigating options.

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  • thlibos@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Goodbye, Discord. It’s been real.

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  • phillycodehound@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What possibly could go wrong? /s

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Grok needs to faces to turn into porn.

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  • DancingTable@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve already responded by deleting Discord from all my devices.

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  • lost_faith@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Hmm, guess I’m gonna have to spin up a chat service if this “teen” setting is too restrictive. The only guarantee I have is that anything given for age verification is going to be hacked with 0 compensation, I will not submit either my face or my ID. My account is 9 yrs this year, will they consider an almost 10 yr old account to be that of an adult?

    Is there another good chat app like this? With similar features (only really need voice/text maybe pictures. Channels that won’t vanish if everyone logs off)? Haven’t been on IRC since 2k2, has it advanced since then? Back in the IRC days we used Team Speak (forget if it was TS or TS2 but on linux you had 0 restrictions on number of users).

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  • Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I am almost 70. I will just use a pic of good ol Harold. Will be funny to see if it accepts him.

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  • PlexSheep@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    While this is certainly a big step in their enshittification process, the restrictions from just not doing it don’t seem so bad.


    Content Filters: Discord users will need to be age-assured as adults in order to unblur sensitive content or turn off the setting.

    Age-gated Spaces – Only users who are age-assured as adults will be able to access age-restricted channels, servers, and app commands.

    Message Request Inbox: Direct messages from people a user may not know are routed to a separate inbox by default, and access to modify this setting is limited to age-assured adult users.

    Friend Request Alerts: People will receive warning prompts for friend requests from users they may not know.

    Stage Restrictions: Only age-assured adults may speak on stage in servers.


    I will definitely not identify myself for them with these options. If they would implement more private methods of age authentication, maybe I would consider it, since I am currently bound to discord for a few social activities.

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  • Teal@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    🖕

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  • ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Does anyone know how to setup matrix?

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    • Mikina@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s extremely easy, the Matrix ansible deploy project is very simple to use (with at least basic tech literacy), is very well documented and as far as I’ve seen in the past few years of using it do deploy and update my Matrix instance - it’s also very robust. I haven’t seen it fail a single time, which tends to be a problem with larger Docker/Ansible projects.

      I’m paying 7$ a month for a cheap server on Hetzner, you also need a domain name, and the whole setup took like an hour.

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  • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What is the free and open source alternative?

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    • Beep@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Stoat(Formally Revolt).

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    • RalfWausE@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Its IRC, it works, there is already a very mature ecosystem

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There’s Mumble for voice, text and images. The server is self hosted and there is no chat history so it’s private. It uses Opus so the audio quality is very good without using a lot of bandwidth. For gaming, it supports positional audio and a HUD that shows who is talking.

      For the projects using Discord for support, they should move to a forum.

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  • kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    …discord.com/…/212500837-How-to-Delete-your-Disco…

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  • you_are_dust@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I heard it suggested that you can possibly trick the face scan using screen grabs of video game or tv characters. Anyone know if this is actually possible?

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    • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “It appears you are Fred Flintstone.”

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      • you_are_dust@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Well I’d definitely be allowed on the adult stuff because I’m at least thousands of years old at this point.

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Can you save all chat logs on Discord?

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    • Beep@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can.

      But only CIA can export them.

      On serious note, here is a tool to do that.

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    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      GDPR should give you the right, but I’m not sure if they have a button you can click or if you need to email them about it

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      • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Probably have to identify myself in some way 🫠

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  • RickyRigatoni@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Maybe we’ll be able to use death stranding or stellar blade here.

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  • blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Atleast all the pedos well finally leave the platform

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  • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Does Matrix have problems I’m not aware of as an alternative? Saw they have 115 million accounts compared to Discord’s 500 million so its already well tested? Not a user of either service.

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    • isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Matrix is not a Discord alternative, it’s a Slack alternative

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      • quips@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It absolutely is both

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    • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Matrix, the central service, might work, but I’m not sure if it could handle the load well. Matrix, the federated service, hosted by many people, have performance issues with the “free” version. I could not test the paid/more optimized version, so I can’t talk about that.

      Anyway, the protocol and clients have their issues. All these stems from usage; I did not do a deep dive in the internal of it. But on the top of my head:

      • joining a room will sometimes not send you keys to see older messages, despite being configured to do so. When it works, it’s ok. When it doesn’t, there’s little to no recourse.
      • sometimes (rarely) rooms have to be upgraded to use new versions/features. So far it happened once (to my knowledge). The issue is that “upgrade” means locking the existing room, creating a new one, inviting everyone in the new room, and putting a link to the old room as read only. Sure, the process is mostly automated… except the best way to start it is using dev commands on a client, and every user will have to accept the invite. Just hope you don’t have too much rooms.
      • Logging into a new device/client sometimes will works perfectly fine. Other times it will obstinately refuse to retrieve your room’s keys from another existing, online, logged-in device. Despite the “confirmation” dialog, it won’t work. You can manually export/import your keys from one device to another, but for large scale adoption? Not good. You can say goodbye to all previous messages if that happens.
      • Interface is relatively barebone, and some features gets pushed quickly (like, throwing confettis), while other (like, proper room management, fine notification controls, etc.) are held back forever.
      • Features are limited. It works very well as a chat, and they recently worked on a built-in video/audio call service, but that’s it. A few “plugins” are supposed to work but are clunky as hell (they’re basically iframes). Some features that people consider important (like stickers) are definitively an afterthought, and searching for a sticker is a pain (dicslaimer: I’m not using the central service/app, so that part might be specific to my instance)

      With that said, nothing’s actually a show stopper for small usage, and the heavily optimized server might handle itself well enough, as long as you’re mainly concerned with having text rooms. But open instances handling hundreds of users might be a stretch… for now. Maybe this will cause more development into the Matrix/Element ecosystem.

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    • Tonava@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It doesn’t have custom emoji support, which is one of the reasons Discord even got such a large userbase (a lot of people are paying for nitro only to get the general custom emoji support). Maybe some forks (or whatever the proper term is) do have that, but those seem to be hard to find and even harder to convince anyone to use

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    • whelk@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I really want to love Matrix but man, it just feels janky. And this is from someone who likes IRC and XMPP. I can’t put my finger on why Matrix just doesn’t feel great, that’s the most frustrating part. Might be solvable with a decent client. I don’t like Element. Quaternion seems nice and simple but keeps crashing on me, and I don’t think it handles voice

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