A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.
Bucha Bull to me.
Over my dead body Jeff.
Submitted 4 days ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
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GameGeologist36@lemmy.world 3 days ago
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 3 days ago
He needs to be uploaded to a cloud himself. By a bullet to the head.
piwakawakas@lemmy.nz 3 days ago
I guess there’s more than one reason all pc parts are rising at a ridiculous rate
ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Weird. You would think that the “genius” would know that the very AI and Quantum computing his organization and other Billionaires are building out, is going to undermine anything of value that is Centralized. Really proof his genius is how to exploit others and not really the reality we are finding ourselves in. I am LOL inside as the shift back to decentralized services will be a bloodbath for Centralized anything.
bunchberry@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s… literally the opposite. The giant AI models with trillions of parameters are not something you can run without spending many thousands of dollars, and quantum computers cost millions. These are definitely not services that are going to fall into the hands of everyday people. At best you get small AI models.
ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The evidence is the trend overtime in terms of organizations getting hacked (countless studies and reports on it). This is the graph to watch closely as it is the path we are on and there is a point on that curve that Centralization becomes a liability.
goatinspace@feddit.org 3 days ago
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grapefruittrouble@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Perfect! And after that we can rent our phones from the cloud too. Maybe our electric cars after that?
jj4211@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Bezos said he saw this generator in the same way he sees local computing solutions today
This is hilarious, because every single facility of note, and especially datacenters has local, grid independent generators. Datacenters in particular have been noteworthy for pushing for ‘off-grid’ power plants to give them more control over their power and costs. In the more reachable territory, residential solar promises value by mitigating your exposure to eletrical rate changes, and in some cases combined with home energy storage, people are going off-grid. A lot of commercial interests also pad out their facilities with solar panels, because it is cheaper than sourcing entirely from the grid, and this was before the recent rate hikes inflicted by datacenter buildouts.
His analogy is bogus because he implies off-grid energy generation is a thing of the past while AWS itself is a huge driver of off-grid energy generation in a world where off-grid energy generation is actually increasing.
Dojan@pawb.social 3 days ago
Datacenters in particular have been noteworthy for pushing for ‘off-grid’ power plants to give them more control over their power and costs.
Yeah, like how Elong Musk is poisoning Memphis with his illegal generators spewing smog all over the place.
TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Why should I?
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s like an EU member purchasing the F-35 under Krasnov. Yep, fuck that shit.
kureta@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
There’s no quite part anymore. It’s all out in the open. Be it politics, capitalism, police brutality,… you name it.
f314@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Seize the means of computation!
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 days ago
So, what prediction did Bezos make back then, that seems particularly poignant right now? Bezos thinks that local PC hardware is antiquated, and that the future will revolve around cloud computing scenarios, where you rent your compute from companies like Amazon Web Services or Microsoft Azure.
This isn’t a new idea, and it certainly predates Bezos.
I’m older now, but throughout my life there has been a pendulum swing back and forth between local compute power vs remote compute power. The price of RAM going up follows the exact same path this has gone half a dozen times already in the last 50 years. Compute power gets cheap then it gets expensive, then it gets cheap again. Bezos’s statements are just the most recent example. He’s no prophet. This has just happened before, and it will revert again. Rinse repeat:
- 1970s remote compute power: This couldn’t really compute anything locally and required dialing into a mainframe over an analog telephone line to access the remote computing power.
- 1980s local compute power: CPUs got fast and cheap! Now you could do all your processing right on your desk without need of a central computer/mainframe
- 1990s remote compute power: Thin clients! These were underpowered desktop units that could access the compute power in a server such as Citrix Winframe/Metaframe or SunOS (for SunRay thin clients). Honorable mention for retail type units like Microsoft WebTV which was the same concept with different hardware/software.
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2000s local compute power: This was the widespread adoption of desktop PCs with 3D graphics cards as a standard along with high power CPUs.
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2010s remote compute power: VDI appears! This is things like VMware Horizon or Citirix Virtual Desktop along with the launch of AWS for the first time.
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2020s local compute power: Powerful CPUs and massively fast GPUs are now now standard and affordable.
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2030s remote compute power…in the cloud…probably
evol@lemmy.today 3 days ago
In 2040s do we just move our brains into our own self hosted data centers?
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 days ago
For the 2040s, if the pattern holds, local compute power will be come dirt cheap again, and there will be very few reasons to pay someone else to host your compute power remotely. Maybe it will be supercomputers on everyone’s wrist or something.
KiwiTB@lemmy.world 4 days ago
This is part of the AI push, but it assumes that it succeeds. With luck it can be stopped.
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Yup, just don’t eat the shit they are shoveling.
orbitz@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Cheap computer (I’m Canadian so let’s say these are maple bucks) say $500, what’s a rental $30 a month, so 16ish months before it’s paid off.
I ran a media PC off a $300 computer for years (I can’t recall exactly least 2 maybe 3). If you need more you probably don’t need a cloud one, if you get a cloud one it’s cheaper to buy a cheap computer every 2 years.
It may make a sense to some but I enjoy having my nas backup and separate media PC. Also if Amazon goes down you can’t even access the calculator, least with no Internet there are options at home.
chasteinsect@programming.dev 2 days ago
Terry Davis was right…
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yeah thats gonna be a no from me
GaryGhost@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Amazon sucks
Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
I’ll host my photos on a jailbroken pregnancy test.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
If China wants to win against these assholes, all they have to do is help develop open alternatives to TSML and ASML and not invade Taiwan so these assholes have to bear the brunt of the AI bubble.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Literally no reason to live if you have to subscribe for air.
No reason to hold back then, this planet is not big enough for billionaires.
vin@lemmynsfw.com 3 days ago
It never was a thing that kept quiet…
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s just many people on the way were telling you
- "but imagine not having to upgrade"
- “internal DACs are noisy, only go wired if you’re a true audiophile”
- “stop being a luddite”
vin@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
- Not everyone always wants heated seats, so we’re actually lowering the price by having it as a subscription
wewbull@feddit.uk 4 days ago
…and how show I access this cloud compute? Stick my fingers into a network socket and wiggle them?
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I don’t buy computers from wax figures.
Minimac@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
He so damn trash
weew@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Aren’t people backdoor already doing this? There are lots of people who only have their phone and maybe a tablet, and for basically everything that might actually require computing power (i.e. photo editing) they end up using a web app or something.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yeah, web apps are like that, that’s why I’m dropping them (alongside with Electron apps) as soon as possible. Currently in the process of writing a DAP plugin for KATE, so I can have a nice GUI debugger on Linux without having to use VSlop Code.
ftbd@feddit.org 3 days ago
What’s wrong with VSCode? There’s an open source version (codium) which works just as well for me.
m3t00@lemmy.world 3 days ago
deadymouse@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Oh, it seems that in the future books will become popular.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 days ago
No.
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I have a linuxbox with decent hardware that i can squeeze 4 years out of still, a steamdeck, and steamframes soon. I’ll be good for quite a while, long enough to ride out the AI slop-bubble
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Wonder if all the AI shit has actually been a way to inflate the price of computer hardware to the point where something like this is the only way some people will be able to afford to use computers at all.