Submitted 3 weeks ago by sudoer777@lemmy.ml to selfhosted@lemmy.world
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1uvfojx/state_of_the_discord_a_lesson/
TLDR: The r/selfhosted subreddit has a Discord server. The owner’s account got hacked leaving the server in a precarious state. They submitted a support ticket, but Discord has not taken action in weeks and probably won’t at all, so they are considering starting a new Discord server.
selfhosted use Discord
Lol
Discord absolutely failed them They consider starting another Discord server
Double lol
I definitely agree. Lol. But I also totally understand using Discord. I assume the community isn’t meant exclusively for people who currently self host, but also for people interested in starting to. In that regard, Discord will most likely be what those people have and are willing to use.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago Correct. I have received help from that server in the past, and it’s unusable now. Part of what I hope to accomplish is to replace Discord, or at least offer my friends an off-ramp. Getting started with Discord is way easier, and in the year 2026, I wouldn’t know what other client to use to look for a community that gives me quick help via live chat. I no longer know how to use IRC, I’ve found.
I get the point that that’s where the people are, but also kinda feel like the selfhosted community should act as a vanguard to a point. Sure, maybe you have a ‘front door’ on a corporate platform, but kinda feel like in the case of selfhosted sticking to your principles and purposefully rejecting platforms that don’t fit the vision is kind of important especially when you’re currently in the middle of finding out why.
Also I feel like discord has a limited lifespan until it will necessarily turn into worse. They lose money each year so I wonder when their vs money runs dry
Judging by the sales emails I’ve gotten from them they’re trying to break into business use and compete with slack/teams. And all I have to say to that is “lol”.
povoq@slrpnk.net@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago But why a new Discord server? 🤦
That’s the punchline brother man
“Fool me twice well… Shame on… Shame on…Point being we been fooled once we won’t get fooled again!”
Fool me twice, get a free ticket to fool me thrice.
irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago What a flippin’ moron he was…both of them actually.
They’re a completely unserious owner if they use Discord still as a “selfhoster”, that and getting hacked on top of that shows how careless they are as a moderator.
Self hosting and providing a public service are two very different things.
I’ve never self hosted a discord alternative, but it doesn’t seem like it’d cost anything to just spin it up beside existing self hosted infrastructure.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago 
MilkToast@breakfast.haus 3 weeks ago It’s kubernetes so I couldn’t fix it if I wanted to
lol
My hotest selfhosting take is that stuff I use in my day job, docker/k8s/cloud is not worth it and generally worse for long-term self hosting than a Debian box.
Like I have the skills to troubleshoot containerized setups, it’s litterally my dayjob, but I’d rather not deal with it in my freetime unless there is no other way to run it.
tropicaldingdong@lemmy.world@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago Discord sucks.
Matrix, dudes.
The irony.
Stoat chat has been a good Discord alternative.
last i checked it was very difficult to run your own instance (including voice chats)
What advantage does it have compared to Matrix?/IRC?
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago It mimics discord, so functional voice rooms with screen sharing, text channels, and so on…
It’s worked okay for me so far as well. The mobile apps aren’t super stable yet and notifications don’t work but it works for what it is right now. I do miss the stability of discord but I’m not going back
Fluxer as well. It has iOS and Android apps in beta too.
Those saying “just self-host Matrix/Stoat/XMPP”, do not understand the power of network effects. If people are too lazy to sign up on your custom server, and you end up with 50% of the users you would have gotten if you used Discord, is that worth it? What if it was only 10%?
I wish there were a solution to this. Interoperability sounds nice until you have multiple competing standards (like Matrix and XMPP)
There’s a certain irony making this comment on Lemmy.
Well I’m not trying to start a community around helping people, I’m just a participator. If I wantsd to maximize the number of people I could help, I might move back to reddit
Why, use Redddit if you are in a self hosting community, I understand the community of curious people are there but are you really going to be selling yourself short like that? Than to be using discord as a self hosting community messanger?
Points furiously THIS Alanis! This right here!
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| LXC | Linux Containers |
| XMPP | Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (‘Jabber’) for open instant messaging |
| k8s | Kubernetes container management package |
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Guys, while we’re at it… Is there any discord alternative that has some kind of safe guarding against power tripping mods?
I think the only safeguard against that is to do your own moderation. The only tool I can think of that would even come close to detecting “power tripping” would be AI, and we all know that would end terribly. The best you can do is remove incentives (somehow, idk) so mods aren’t rewarded for a bad ban.
It does seem like wildly unregulated territory, unfortunately.
I have ideas I’ve brainstormed though:
Minimum number of moderaters once a certain user threshold has been reached (So if you have above 1k-5k users, you need a minimum of 2 or 3 mods)?
Ability to report servers for incompetent moderation?
There’s a line eventually where discord stops being a place where “friends hang out” and becomes a platform to engage with a community.
That’s the point where moderation should be regulated.
Just my two cents anyway.
How do you even define that?
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 weeks ago
Fitting that r/selfhosted can’t selfhost.
femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Hosting costs money, maybe if you disable voice, video, uploads, and only allowed text it would be manageable but discord is free. I run my own chat server but it’s only for like 10 people.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 weeks ago
At least voice and video are often done peer to peer. So the strain on the server would be almost zero.
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
those who can’t do, teach