Why do .ml users get a bad rep?

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• cabbage@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The admins over there have some profoundly questionable views, which tends to push away reasonable people and attract bootlickers.

  The problem is not the users as much as the site itself and its admins. I wish reasonable people (not bootlickers) would stop using lemmy.ml and go somewhere better. It’s biggest function right now is to scare away good people who would have been happy elsewhere.

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  • muxika@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Having an ideological focus for an entire instance feels like a major mistake. I can understand one admin having that take, but not the whole team. Thanks for the heads up.

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    • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think instances with ideological underpinnings is fine, and maybe inevitable. The crucial thing is that they need to be honest about it, so that those not interested can go elsewhere.

      The problem with lemmy.ml is that it pretends to be a catch-all instance when it’s in fact very much not, and that it doesn’t tell users up front what it’s all about. Both Hexbear and Lemmygrad are better in that respect—at least they’re honest.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, it’s not that people don’t like the lemmy.ml users, or even really their mods…

    It’s (at least one of) the admins.

    If they see something they don’t like on their server, they delete it and give a very very short ban. Because they don’t want those people gone. They want them enraged and chomping at the bit to come back.

    It’s ran like a troll instance, and it’s not alone.

    The only time they permanently ban someone, is when they see someone in a neutral place they can’t control talking about it. Advocate for people blocking them, and they don’t want anyone signed up to their instance seeing your comments

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  • nithou@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Learned about this today, was mainly on lemmy.ml because lemmy.world was blocking too much instances -_- Now trying piefed.social

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    • marx@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve enjoyed piefed a lot so far. I think it’s a good choice.

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• Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  .ml is the official one created by the lemmy guys, who are tankies, and that instance has a lot of tankie opinions and bad takes.

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  • pilferjinx@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tankies traditionally but more recently pro-Russian imperial fascists, ruZi if you will.

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    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same thing in most cases.

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• phar@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I was just banned from there because I said The Invasion into Ukraine is murdering people. They called me a fascist because I kept saying I don’t agree with murdering people.

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  • muxika@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Welp, that feels like a red flag. Thanks for the info.

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  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Weird, there’s no history in your mod log.

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    • phar@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m banned so I am on another instance.

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• watson@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  After four days on that instance, have you not figured it out for yourself yet?

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just a side note: The instance you’re on doesn’t really matter very much if you never read the local feed. If you do, you’ll definitely notice the local vibe sooner or later.

    If you’re on an instance that is widely defederated, you may also notice that it’s difficult to find communities. Also, people may comment on your instance if it happens to be particularly notorious. Other than that, instances don’t really matter that much.

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    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The instance matters if you post about anything political. If your instance admins don’t like your posts, they will delete your account. Mods and admins of other instances can only ban you.

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    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are some exceptions to this. Blahaj blocks downvotes, for example. You can downvote a post on Blahaj, but people (like me) with accounts on Blahaj cannot downvote nor can they see downvotes. I’m sure there are other instances doing similar things, as it sounds like Lemmy has a robust set of instance settings/options.

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    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you’re on an instance that is widely defederated

      Or one that widely defederates.

      I believe mander is the only instance that has a policy of only defederating illegal content.

      In contrast .world has a huge de-federation list.

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  • muxika@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, I don’t think 4 days is enough to distinguish between a user’s hot take and an instance’s position. I didn’t focus on the local feed, so I wouldn’t have known. Most of the posts I’ve seen have been centered on Linux and privacy.

    As I keep scrolling, though, I can see some troubling posts.

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    • watson@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      OK, I apologize for my tone. I’m not here to criticize you. I am legitimately interested in helping:

      All of those things you mentioned? Do all of that. Focus on your local feed, check out comments that originate from your instance. That’s how you will get a good fuel for those who subscribed to your instance.

      And, as others have mentioned, you can sign up to any instance and still interact however, you like with the rest of Lemmy. Follow the rules of whatever community you’re commenting or posting in, sure, but, aside from the instances that are defeated, you can interact, post, comment, vote, whatever, regardless of your home instance. It’s just that a lot of people take particular care in choosing our home instance, and they choose a home instance that Socio politically aligns with their own views.

      This is neither necessary, nor demanded from the vast majority of Lemmy users. It’s just how Lemmy was designed, and if you’re not interested in doing that, fine.

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  • urheber@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t think I’ve ever posted on a community in my instance… But yeah, I’m not federated with .ml, so I am happy.

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• remon@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Because of they way they are.

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• T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Everything that is critical of China or Russia is cia propaganda. Everything their sources say is unquestionable truth. That sums up my experience

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• falseWhite@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It took me maybe a week to figure out that I don’t want to be there and why.

  If you haven’t figured it out yet, you either need more time or you are just like the .ml gang and that’s your home.

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