You may want to add instructions on how to find the setting
YSK that Apple makes hundreds of millions of dollars with personalized advertising. If you have an iPhone, you should turn it off.
Submitted 2 weeks ago by vanidian1@lemmy.world to youshouldknow@lemmy.world
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stoy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thank you! The following negativity isn’t directed at you in any way, because this is very helpful (for now).
But something that annoys me about apple is they like, move settings around constantly and change the names of settings. So if you’re having some issue, guides like this with specific detailed instructions end up outdated and lead to dead ends, and not even the search function helps. Almost every issue I have I end up having to look up a second guide on how to find the modern location for whatever toggle I need lol
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My favorite is when you know what setting you want an you try searching it and the app acts like you don’t know wtf you’re talking about
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Android does this too. And every iteration of reorganizing is still bad. In android 4, it was hard to find anything, and it still is. The search function does help but it’s not nearly as smart as it should be.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
You should see it on Android where not only does every version move everything around, but every manufacturer seems to re-implement the entire settings screen as well.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Not to dismiss this because it’s real but at least for this specific instance search for the title of that view, “Apple advertising” goes right to the setting.
My main complaint with settings are the things found only in setting but searching settings does not surface them.
This happens a lot with family and iCloud+. Passwords was broken out of settings recently and it’s well past time for iCloud and family settings to come out too. Especially family settings which aren’t really device settings so why do they cram them in with my device’s settings when I can’t even consistently access them with setting’s search.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They also change their undocumented Settings deeplinks
Undocumented… (rude!)
phed@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Thanks, was irritating to have OP make this post and not include this info. Turns out I had it off already.
cloudless@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
YSK: Android has a similar option, but it is not enforced, so individual Android apps can completely ignore this and still track you.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
And this is part of why I root.
Only certain apps get network access, and only certain apps get to use Google services.
They’ll complain, some won’t work.
Next phone won’t have Google services at all, and untrustworthy apps will be sandboxed in their own profiles.
kaidenshi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I know it’s ironic, but buy a Pixel for your next phone(1) and use GrapheneOS. It sandboxes all of the Google stuff so it can’t track you across the device, only within the sandboxed app or service itself. Chances are all of your financial apps will still work (mine did including Paypal, the pickiest by far) and the only downside I experienced was less than ideal keyboard error correction and complicated voice-to-text setup (required a third party voice recog service since Google’s didn’t exist in GrapheneOS).
(1) Don’t buy it new, get one from Swappa or the equivalent trusted used phone marketplace in your country.
marx@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
God we need Ubuntu Touch to take off already. So tired of this corporate bullshit.
DBT@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but all this switch does is make adds relevant/not relevant to you. It doesn’t stop whatever data is needed to make it work, does it?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nor does it cut into the corporate revenues. They get paid for the ads either way. The odds of you clicking an ad (presumably) go down, though, so the click-through revenue the company would hypothetically get if you clicked on ads will be theoretically diminished.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Still better than being spied on. Irrelevant ads are an improvement.
otp@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The commenter you replied to seems to be suggesting that the spying still happens
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Just spam us based on the actual content being experienced, advertisers, gosh!
Worked just about forever! (Well for however long the web had ads pre-personalization)
BigDiction@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It limits the use of a unique device id that can be shared with third parties. AFAIK it doesn’t limit anything for Apple’s 1st party apps that include advertising, like Maps.
Notably Apple is spinning up a demand side platform (DSP) where advertisers can spend money directly on Apple platforms to place ads. That almost certainly means that platform will have full access to relevant user data for their ads customers.
dosboy0xff@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
When that setting gets checked, the IDFA gets set to all zeroes per the developer docs. So it definitely doesn’t stop data collection or attempts to target, it just changes that one data point. Instead of an easy “this specific account is associated with this action”, you instead get “someone who clicked the opt-out button is associated with this action - you’re going to have to target them using other details”
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
At this point they’re shafting the advertisers. They may not be personalized ads to you, but the advertisers don’t know control where their ads show up. They just pay whenever their ads get displayed.
Apple/Google still make the money regardless of “personalized” ads. They still group these users based on some data points like IP location and trends in those areas.
These company’s worth didn’t grow to trillions without profiting off on both ends. Malicious compliance is the name of the game.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Hey, get outta here. You’re supposed to blindly hate apple, sheep.
/s for the stupid (not you).
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When you have an android phone you should also turn it off.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Windows has it as well.
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is this bait? Because I’m taking it.
Linux doesn’t have it because doesn’t have ads.
essell@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is this an OS level thing or a per-app issue on Android?
My system blocks adverts to such a degree I don’t know what this looks like!
Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
It’s in global Google settings. Under “all services” > “ads”.
Google setting on Android, with the “ads” option highlighted
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, everyone should do everything they can to avoid seeing advertisements. No one is immune, and advertising is very effective. That’s how Trump ended up as President twice. Yes, that was advertising, all of it.
It’s hard for them to show me ads when I barely look at my phone. It’s hard for them to show me ads through uBlock. I go most days without seeing an intrusive ad. I only see ads on the rare occasion I do online shopping. I do that the same way I shop IRL, as quickly as possible.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It was a bit more involved than “advertisements”. It was a targeted psyop. Cfr Cambridge Analytica.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ALL advertising is a targeted psyop. It’s literally trying to get you to do something you wouldn’t otherwise do.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
One of the first things that gets turned off.
Ad tracking of any kind.
AI of any kind.
Notifications for almost everything.
Any other metrics or telemetry that can be disabled without impacting functionality.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Absolutely, notifications are so annoying. Phone and texts are all I want to make a sound. Everything else can wait for me to interact
stoy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I have notifications for when there is an Aurora Borealis outside, but that seldom happens…
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Supposedly the new Samsung “OneUI 8” upgrade tries to streamline notifications and make them less annoying or attention grabbing. I just upgraded so I’m curious what it’ll be like but according to articles the entire goal of version 8 was to make the device less noisy to the user in general.
watson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The cool thing is that you can turn it off
nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Allegedly.
watson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
this isn’t an android. When you turn something off on an iPhone, it turns off.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We get it, you’re paid by Apple.
Or, I hope someone sucking corporate cock like you do is getting paid at least,.
watson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m going to save this comment as an excellent example of someone who is a “fanatic”. Someone who believes that the only way someone could disagree with them is if they were paid to do that.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Funny. Because apple says they respect my data security and privacy first and foremost and as we all know, lying in advertisements isn’t a thing.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone says Apple cares about privacy. Why is this even there?
gustofwind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If they cared less you wouldn’t even get the option
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Google and Facebook do the same thing, doesn’t make them any more privacy friendly.
melfie@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
There are 2 reasons a big corporation will ever do anything:
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Make number go up
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Avoid number going down due to bad PR, government fines, etc.
This probably falls under #2.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Apple does sell privacy in ads.
And their hardware sales margins are hilarious.
So in this case they do have some incentive for privacy/security.
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elgordino@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
I wish there was a way to turn off that massive Klarna advert in Apple Pay.
Every time you pay there is a ‘Other cards and pay later options’ button. You use it to change to a different card, but when you do there’s an option to sign up for Klarna.
Apple should do better than be promoting shitty BNPL services.
SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Their hardware would be too expensive without this subsidizing it.
otp@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Their hardware is too expensive even with this subsidizing it
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Like, turn off the iPad or iPhone?
Agreed.
piyuv@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You shouldn’t turn it off because Apple makes millions of $$$ from it; you should turn it off because personal data collection is just bad
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I’d say both, don’t make the rich richer
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
But my stock gains! This feature adds fractions of a cent to each share. Where’s your sacrifice for
themygreatermediocregoodwealth extraction?lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Does turning it off stop the data collection, or just stop them from using it to show you targeted ads?
okamiueru@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I ask myself “do the consequences of them doing something bad, outweigh the money they make by doing it anyways?”. Individuals might have, and follow, moral principles. Large companies do not.