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Submitted 2 weeks ago by simple@piefed.social to games@lemmy.world
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LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
My gaming PC from 2019 might be technically barely faster than this (2070S in it) but I’m still inclined to buy one.
What’s convinced me is my steam deck. I couldn’t be happier with a piece of hardware as this. And if this is just a more powerful non-handheld variant that does all the same shit, I’d be open to it for sure.
CoyoteFacts@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
I’m curious to see how the price will be affected as consumer PCs get stronger every year. Will they update the Steam Machine every couple of years, or will they decrease the price? I have to assume they are targeting a neutral price because their primary goal is to assemble a linux box with as little margin as possible and put it in front of you for an actual fair price, but “fair price” is a moving target.
Personally, I’m all for getting what I pay for. People who sell to you at a loss are up to something.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So what’s a PC with the same level of performance?
store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine
CPU
Semi-custom AMD Zen 4 6C / 12T
up to 4.8 GHz, 30W TDP
GPU
Semi-Custom AMD RDNA3 28CUs
2.45GHz max sustained clock, 110W TDP
16GB DDR5 + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM
512GB NVMe SSD
2TB NVMe SSD
$1,000?
BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Spec wise I can get there around $688 on pc part picker. I would imagine valve could hit a lower price point with selling en masse. That being said if you take in the price point of how small it is that could add some extra cost.
pscamodio@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
With the same form factor, noise level, CEC, wake on USB, optimized sleep/resume? Just having a set of component with similar performance on paper is not having the same device.
It’s a bad comparison to make.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That PC at microcenter is much faster than the Steam Machine.
Here’s some benchmarks for the 7600M, that has the exact same specs as the GPU in the Steam Machine.
notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-7600M-GPU-Benchma…
Here’s some benchmarks for a 9060XT which is the GPU on your link:
notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-9060-XT-16GB-Benc…
And here’s some benchmarks for a desktop 7600 which is another card people are comparing the Steam Machine to:
notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-7600-Benchmarks-a…
In case anyone doesn’t wanna wade through the terrible way notebookcheck presents information, I’ll post the numbers for CyberPunk High Preset at 1080P just to give you an idea of the performance difference. Nothing particular about why I chose that game, it’s just the first I found that was on all 3 links:
RX7600M: 62.3 FPS RX7600: 90.1 FPS RX9060XT: 127.2 FPS
If we set the 7600M as 100%, then the 7600 and 9060XT are 144.6% and 204.1% respectively.
I think people are thinking the Steam Machine will be way faster and that’s why they’re coming up with these outrageous prices.
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
If olot really Is going to be priced like that then why? Like you Can Build a PC and Its even fun. You cant make a Powerfull PC that small easly but like…idk
itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m guessing the same reason people don’t always reroof their own house, or replace their own home electrical, or build their own bike. Sometimes it’s worth spending money to avoid doing a thing you either don’t want to or don’t know how to do. As I’ve gotten older and more financially secure that’s definitely been the case with me at least
nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Plus, they may be able to come in slightly cheaper on volume discounts on components.
I’ve always built my on PCs, but there are times when the whims of the market have made pre-builts cheaper.
DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People out there replacing their homes electrical?
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah there Is also that. Its more convenient sometimes to not do the “Sorry” job
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Eh, I don’t particularly enjoy building PCs, but I do it because it’s cheaper, esp. for upgrades. I’m really not the target market for this.
That said, this is the right product for a lot of people. Many don’t want to mess with their gaming system, they want it to just work. That’s why consoles are popular, and the Steam Machine being a bit more expensive than a console and get access to Steam’s catalog is very attractive to a lot of people, especially if it otherwise works like a console.
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah It works like the pc-console with steamOS ita Just i found that for me and some other people its a Little redundant, but not that people shouldnt buy it
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you want a smaller form factor it actually costs you more than a normal tower. This is actually not a bad way to get a small form factor computer (if it’s priced like a normal sized PC)
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah fi you want a small pc its very good since its hard to find Powerfull small PCs
Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There were some pieces mentioned on waveform about its set up being out of box ready to be turned on by tv remote and those few console like bits that people like me wouldnt know how to do if we built.
kurcatovium@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
That sucks. I hoped Valve would price it competitively to boost the sales and adoption. But why would I buy this “crippled” PC for the same price I can buy retail? The main gripe for me is Gabecube has no room for upgrade, not even second drive, nothing. Which obviously is not the case with self built PC.
Don’t get me wrong I still like the idea, but the price just must make sense.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
why do you think it’ll be crippled?
kurcatovium@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I mean crippled like it is “as is”, no space to expand, tinker, swap parts. I’ve also seen a rumor it’ll have locked BIOS, but I hope that’s just a rumor.
Darkness343@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As long as I can buy it with one Troy ounce of pure gold and not more, it’s a good price.
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
No its gonna be 0.5674392 Troy ounces of pure Gold
Darkness343@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Acceptable price
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That’s a rip off, it’ll be more like 1/4 troy ounce, if that
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
A PC of similar performance is about $550 so I don’t get what they’re saying about it not been priced like a console. That’s about exactly what a Series S would cost.
simple@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
A PC of similar performance is about $550
where did you get that? With the price increases of pc components in recent months, it’s more like $750+.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I didn’t use prices from last week I used prices from last year because that’s when Steam would have actually made their devices. Manufacturing of the steam machine and the steam frame is rumoured to have occurred around 2023-2024, should the Trump shenanigans shouldn’t have affected things too much.
That’s not to say that somehow much the devices will cost it’s just how much it would have cost to build. How much profit they’re going to try and make on them is an unknown. With the steam deck they aim for $100 profit margin, but who knows with this device. The steam frame is also an unknown because it’s a weird configuration.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Used market prices, probably. An 8GB VRAM video card and an appropriate CPU that wouldn’t bottleneck performance could easily fit under $500. I guess nowadays the RAM would be the hangup lol.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Is this anounced to boost the sales of a yet-to-be-revealed steam link 2 ?
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Steam Link 2 is just a Google TV or similar device with the Steam Link app installed. They never stopped the project, just shifted focus.
MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
thats cool. still don’t care though.
Bo7a@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Thank you for informing us that you care so little that you bothered to type how little you care.
MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
no problem