Why does a community called no stupid questions allow comments that say the question is stupid?

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨baggins@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨nostupidquestions@lemmy.world⁩

I asked a genuine question and had replies that ignored the question I asked and insulted me and said my question was stupid. My reply telling them to stop being rude and answer the question if they want to comment was removed by the mods.

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melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Stupid questions exist. Allowing them into this forum is a failure of the moderator(s). /s

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L3s@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Please report those, we will remove them. If we removed your comment for being rude, then we did not read their comment calling the question stupid, and that’s our bad.

Also, my DM’s are always open if you disagree with a removal, anyone who has spoken with me before will vouch that I’m fairly reasonable as long as things don’t break rules (such as gray areas).

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- baggins@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is the person I had to block on the post for being rude to me so yes. That’s the comment I had an issue with. It was reported for not being on topic and being rude. And yes my reply to the rude comment was also rude.
  
  My comment was removed and the off topic rude reply to my OP was left up
  
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  - L3s@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m not sure where this is rude or off-topic to your question, it is direct but on-topic:
    
    You can do pretty much whatever you want man…
    
    Like “vegan” isn’t even a century old yet, it was made up in the 1940s by some guy who thought vegetarians weren’t good enough, and he set whatever rules he wanted to.
    
    You can just keep using his word, but not care about his rules.
    
    Or you can make up your own name and rules.
    
    People searching for labels they like and then conforming to every fucking aspect of that label and nothing else, doesn’t work out well.
    
    So please, if you want to eat roadkill just do it.
    
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Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You got a lot of genuine replies engaging with your thoughts. I’d focus on that over the negative.

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- baggins@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s upsetting to have someone leave you a rude comment and when you try and stand up for yourself the mods delete your comment and not theirs
  
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  - Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sure but it’s not worth dwelling on is what I’m saying.
    
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ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The community name is asperational, maybe someday it will be reality.

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Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why are you asking this question? It sounds more like a rant.

I’m sure you know moderation is neither instantaneous nor perfect. So that makes this a rant instead if a genuine question.

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SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
“Remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid children”

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Acamon@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think your absolutely right that people shouldn’t call a question stupid in c/nostupidquestions. But they can and should criticise a question for being a rant disguised as a question (eg. “Why are X people so stupid?”). More borderline is a questions that maybe meant in good faith but seems to have so many problematic assumptions built-in, that it’s difficult to even engage with fairly. It might not be a stupid question, but it’s been phrased in a way that makes so many wrong assumptions, that answering it becomes an unnecessarily difficult chore.

I saw your question about veganism, and I can imagine some people took it as way of poking vegans. Vegans get a lot of hassle online, and are often asked to justify this or that, so asking “why don’t they eat roadkill” (in so many words) could be seen as not coming from a genuine place of curiosity. I’m not saying your question wasn’t genuine, but I can imagine that other people thought so.

I do think your question falls into the “too many dumb assumptions”. There were responses along the lines of “vegans don’t eat meat, so of course they don’t eat meat that has died naturally”. And you responded with “I meant the philosophy not the diet”. If that’s true, then it was a “badly phrased” question, not a “stupid” one.

Nostupidquestions is meant to be a place to ask questions that you feel like you should know, or everyone else seems to know. If you ask confusing or misleading questions, it’s reasonable for people to respond with “that’s not what veganism means” or whatever. But I do 100% think people should say it’s a stupid question (although, having read through the thread I don’t see anyone saying that to you…)

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- baggins@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Never once did I suggest eating roadkill it was all the comments in the post that did that. And clearly I still have a better handle on the concept than anyone who just posted that that’s not vegan because the definition of vegan is you don’t eat meat.
  
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- False@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Imo the theme is questions that you’re slightly embarrassed to ask because you think you should already know it. Thinly disguised rants, sea lioning, and fetish exploration (yes I’ve seen that here) don’t qualify.
  
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- blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I mean, the problem isn’t that OP’s question was stupid. The problem is that it is rude to question people’s religious practices.
  
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  - WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Veganism is a religion now?
    
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woop_woop@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have you ever heard the expression/joke:

There’s no stupid questions, except that one?

I take it that way. And mods can only work so fast, like others have said.

For what it’s worth, I think you had an interesting question in the other thread and the replies were overall either unhelpful, dumb in-and-of-themselves, or aggressive in the way that shows a person is just angry cause they can’t answer for their own beliefs in a good way and they know it

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givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I asked a genuine question and had replies that ignored the question I asked and insulted me and said my question was stupid

No you didn’t…

I asked a genuine question and had replies that ignored the question I asked and insulted me and said my question was stupid.

Looking at the modlog, you had one comment removed for being flippant and not contributing to the conversation. Which is what you’re claiming doesn’t happen…

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SpikesOtherDog@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Outside of your question, there has been some rage bait:

lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/post/38413203

I think it would be appropriate for these conversations to be flagged and locked. I thought there was a lot more, but it seems to have been a while.

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- L3s@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Just because that one is pretty old we are going to leave it, but in the future reports help us catch these. All of us have jobs and families outside of the community, we do this for the enjoyment of others, so reports are heavily relied on and appreciated.
  
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  - SpikesOtherDog@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Well, that’s comforting. I was mildly concerned about my memory.
    
    Guess I’m do my part in the future.
    
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Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Moderation isn’t instantaneous. Reports help make it faster.

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notsosure@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I find your question stolid hehehe

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- IcedRaktajino@startrek.website ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I tried to find out what you were referring to - was it the rude person in the vegan thread? If you look, they were pretty heavily rebutted and downvoted by the other users.

The mods uphold the community guidelines, ideally without overreach. If someone’s out of line, but not breaking any rules, the other users are usually good at putting people straight.

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cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Can’t speak for the mods, but I think people who subscribe here also subscribe to the AskLemmy type communities and they don’t look at what community they’re in.

Mods will do what mods will do. I think users should just downvote unhelpful comments anyway. I myself have voting (both ways) enabled, but I don’t see numbers or vote weight, but I think a lot of people do. So I don’t fully participate in the voting, but that is what it’s for.

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- sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Some communities have downvoting disabled, but as an alternative to downvoting, you can also just not upvote the comment or report it if it actually breaks rules. I don’t think being rude in the comments is against the rules, but it isn’t nice, so I usually just ignore those comments.
  
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  - cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Being rude, in and of itself, doesn’t break the rules in most communities. Some do say to argue in good faith or something to that effect, but none really outright ban rudeness. Maybe the “nice” communities where people go to get away from drama. I dunno. I don’t read a lot of sidebars. The way I try to conduct myself generally fits with a lot of communities. The ones it doesn’t, will kick me out. And that’s fine, to a point. I mean it’s not great but it’s also not the end of, well, anything.
    
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