“It came out of the box this way. I hate it but I paid good money for the device I own to tell me what to do!”
Screw it, I’m installing Linux
Submitted 4 months ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/tech/823337/switching-linux-gaming-desktop-cachyos
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muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Enzy@feddit.nu 4 months ago
Either just remove the slop and telemetry or switch, no big deal or hassle either way.
demonsword@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Either just remove the slop and telemetry
…then remember to do that again and again, every time Windows installs a new update
Enzy@feddit.nu 4 months ago
github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat
This should do the trick, iirc.
m3t00@lemmy.world 4 months ago
people still using IE love it.
bhamlin@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Oooooooor, make services that we want to pay for priced where we can afford them. Just saying. If no one is paying for it, maybe no one wants it.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is a very echo chamber/bubble opinion.
Its a massive deal and a huge hassle for most people.
Most people don’t change the most basic settings. If asked simply if they want to be tracked they’d say no, but not everyone has energy to fight every battle. In fact, no one does, you and I included.
When we dismiss problems as “easy to solve” or “no big deal” or “not much hassle” we effectively directly support the world becoming worse because in every other area where enthusiasts say the same thing and you are affected you’re getting fucked. When everyone does this, this apathy epidemic fucks us all.
hornywarthogfart@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Can confirm, there is a world of difference between people who are chatting about switching to Linux and the average computer user.
As much improved as it is, Linux isn’t ready for those people. Not because it is hard or they can’t figure it out but they don’t care or don’t have the energy. Most people don’t even know what Linux is there than a term they might have heard a couple times.
I would love for Linux to take off and Microsoft to feel the sting from abusing their customers.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yep.
Just cause it doesnt affect you, doesnt mean it wont eventually have an effect on you.
Lots of people shrugging their shoulders and going “Why should I care about spying? I’ve got nothing to hide” are exactly why we are where we are right now.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Also most Linux distros are “free”.
IonTempted@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
I guess, I won’t do the classic “haha you have to run console to install an app” meme because I know there are distros that cater to Windows users like myself, the problem I find is that most software I’d want to use wouldn’t be supported like video editing and stuff I care about, I’m glad to see Linux rise because only then Microsoft will learn, but also there’s not a BIG issue that’s keeping me from using Windows for now.
It might change who knows.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
I found the switch to linux (22 years ago) easier by seeking software that provided solutions to what i wanted to accomplish, rather than trying to get the software i had been running working in linux.
Like for video editing… have you tried the various video editors available in linux to know which you might like best? I hear a lot of people prefer KDENLIVE. Some found their needs best met just with ffmpeg! There’s a whole range between an besides those.
PS, did you mistype
there’s not a BIG issue that’s keeping me away from using Windows for now.
and meant Linux?
CafeFrog@lemmy.cafe 4 months ago
Davinci Resolve supports Linux natively nowadays, and the FOSS video editor Kdenlive is actually pretty impressive now as well.
bhamlin@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you’re into self harm, blender is a pretty well featured video editor as well. Also, is Linux native.
IonTempted@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
Definitely I know, I’m just working with Adobe maybe to my own detriment haha.
I’ve also not followed anything on the gaming side, I heard it’s way better than what it once was but still with windows I guess, I know I can just run anything I want and work with.
I also kind of wish Windows wasn’t hell bent on making poor decisions, I don’t know how they didn’t start charging us with every version of Windows, I still got my Windows 8.1 key which I used until now, so that’s the only “okay” thing about them.
awldon@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
That annoying penguim
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The only thing that sucks about switching to linux is moving my external NTFS USB drives to my new linux server.
Linux HATES NTFS, hates usb drivers, and hates external drives that aren’t formatted to ext4. fstab doesn’t work for my WD Elements, so i just gave up and shucked the drive and put it inside.
I can’t fit 5 3.5" hard drives in my SFF dell 3070, so i’m stuck on windows right now, but they keep doing random updates the last few weeks and my windows explorer freezes constantly and my computer barely works. So i’m going to have to switch to linux and possibly reformat all 36TB’s to ext4. Not excited about that at all.
So either reformat all my external drives, buy a very expensive NAS with an external SATA port and hope my motherboard recognizes them.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You’re blaming Linux for less than perfect support of a proprietary filesystem that had zero documentation and was painfully reversed engineered by volunteers to a working state so you could say it sucks to have to reformat your precious drives. I’m so sorry you were inconvenienced.
chaosmarine92@reddthat.com 4 months ago
I feel your pain. That was my biggest issue when I switched. Initially I switched to popos and after a month I could never get them working quite right. Eventually I changed to endeavor os and suddenly all the guides on how to mount drives actually worked.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
You don’t need an expensive NAS. You can get a cheap one and force an of install Linux on that, or make one out of an SBC like an orange pi, raspberry pi, or something from Radxa. Or take an old tower off the street, clean it out, toss your drives on there and give it Linux. Or go to microcenter and get some cheap hard drive enclosures and connect via usb.
You have options. And fstab doesn’t have to be “compatible” with specifics drives. It’s just a todo list for the computer to mount filesystems listed in it. Did you make sure to disable bitlocker on the drive you are trying to mount?
Linux works well enough with NTFS. It’s not a great idea to use as your plan A storage filesystem on anything but windows but it’s accessible by Linux so long as bitlocker is turned off.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Linux doesn’t really have issues with NTFS, you just need to install the drivers.
My entire server storage is NTFS (except the boot drive) because its migrated from a windows system, but I use linux.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
yeah i can report i’ve dealt with TB-sized external NTFS-formatted disks for years and never had issues with linux with them :)
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah, you will generally have a better time with exFAT, which is a format both Windows and Linux works with well. All my external drives get formatted as such.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
exFAT is great for compatibility but it doesn’t have journaling, so if there’s a power outage while writing to a file, you can expect the file to get corrupted and unusable (which sucks). apart from that, yeah, it’s great.
what i can recommend if you’re working in a big organization or group or sth is to use a network drive, i.e. a drive that’s accessed over the network. you typically don’t have problems there.
notthebees@reddthat.com 4 months ago
Is it just my experience but exfat is so much slower on windows than ntfs.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ think this will be my best bet going forward. I still need to have my windows computer setup for modding, but i’d rather use linux for daily use and torrents.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Eh? I’ve never had a problem with reading NTFS drives in linux, including USB sticks and SATA/USB adapters. Are you just wanting to read them or use them as read/write? Write is a bit more tricky, requiring ntfs-3g, but most reasonable distros come with that nowadays.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Read/Write and linux will disconnect them randomly and they show up as a completely different drive. So i tried to permanently mount the UID in fstab, but still didn’t work. Most of the fixes i’ve found online don’t work for my drives.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Just be forewarned:
Nvidia requires a bit of work.
SeLinux….it is a giant bag of gotcha.
That all said I’m not regretting my conversion.
Gloomy@mander.xyz 4 months ago
I use Linux Mint and Nvidea and never had any problem what so ever with it. But maybe i just have been lucky.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you haven’t had to deal with kde plasma for your needs, then yes: consider yourself lucky cuz more than two settings on the bios needs to change as well. And that’s not even going into the dual boot scenario. Which is fresh hell. Especially with the most recent upgrades with locks and dynamic cards. And learning that every motherboard handles it differently even if you have matched all other types of hardware.
Just a reminder everyone’s needs are different. And some of this is way easier on windows if you’re arguing at just out of the box working
Not that I’m regretting going Linux. I’m just regretting the fanbois who are insufferable and obnoxious since coming to Linux. Really rides on my patience after several installs and learning all this by hand.
So many reveal that after I put the foot down all they did was just install to do some real basic shit and call it easy. They know nothing and need to sit down. Either help or Shut up, let people work through their required build.
We can be better than this.
Gloomy@mander.xyz 4 months ago
[deleted]dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Me no use Mint, but the only problem I get is the sleep bug (waking from sleep results in a black screen). I’ve looked into it a few times and all I can assume is it’s probably nvidia so I gave up on solution hunting and pray one day it’s fixed (it’s getting slightly better over the years or maybe thats a placebo idk, it seems to fully break quite rarely now).
After my pc sleeps I usually have to switch sessions with ctrl+alt+<fn key> then back to the one running KDE and it (nvidia?) revives itself and I can keep working on watching my movies.
Just sharing my experience because mby someone smart here is thinking “yo yur dumb just do this”, but honest it’s not a big deal for me anymore.
nuko147@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Me after using the KDE: how the fuck Linux is better Windows than Windows?
They were supposed to focus on window managing, ITS IN THEIR FUCKING NAME. Instead you need extra things like Powertoys for basic functions that KDE has integrated.
AldinTheMage@ttrpg.network 4 months ago
And then power toys shortcuts conflict with the standard shortcuts and requires a ton of fiddling and customizing configs. You know, the thing windows users always say is a reason they don’t want to use linux.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Yus!
That was so my take too, in 2003.
I switched because of WinXP, that insane bloater chewing up resources I could have been using for my art tools if not for their squander on pointless shiny.
So then, in SuSe, with KDE, it had even better shiny, useful shiny, not pointless, and it didnt run 10x slower than 95/98/NT/2000, like XP did, but instead ran 10x faster!
There was no going back to being abused by M$ after seeing that.
SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
If we had fast windowing systems back then, why is modern KDE slower than XP?
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Honestly W11 window management by default is better than KDE right now.
This was true for W10, but not any more.
KDE window outline defaults (don’t have a generic name for setting up the snap zones) take way more effort to set up than the windows version.
I don’t think requiring powertoys for extra features matters that much because its supported by the same company. In my opinion, when having something not default truly sucks is when its third party and is finicky and fickle because it requires developers developing vs a moving target.
When its an internal team, they have much more knowledge about how that target will be moving.
Anyhow, that is to say, I think KDE is great, and completely competent, and I love the level of customizability by default, but it certainly has many flaws. Of course its biggest flaw is not its own fault, but that of the catch 22 situation needed to gain critical mass, and the average linux proselytizer doing everything in their power to ensure people don’t want to try linux by somehow imagining themselves to be the every user, and constantly doing that annoying thing where they both say linux is powerful, and that the faults dont matter because the average user doesn’t use any of said powerful features.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
in 2 decades of using KDE from time to time, the biggest flaw (besides how they released KDE4 way too early and distros picked it up), is how it’s never perfect. fix one bug, add another. add a new feature, break an old feature. always feels like there’s just one little irk hiding somewhere.
123@programming.dev 4 months ago
Having to install powetoys on top of the OS makes it DOA for many on corporate environments. You get stuck on approval limbo or if someone else went through the pain, you discover it breaks every once in a while due to missing .net dependencies that you don’t have the right to install. I’ve seen this for both development (w10 w/ extended support) and thin clients (w11).
Unfortunately our clients all use Windows development machines, so we are stuck on the same to be able to write the guides and documentation. Most of our scripts now rely on Got bash since we know that’s available. MS environments are hostile to proper scripting and automation.
nuko147@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Oh yeah? Can you pin windows? Can you have windows always under the others or above them? Can you manage the buttons in the top ribbon? And dont even start with custom layout or the magnetic attach of windows in KDE.
I didn’t download powertoys for fun. I needed a feature the windows did not have build in. After using KDE, even powertoys look basic to me.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
KDE is the best desktop environment I’ve ever had the pleasure of using. So much better than Windows at everything I want out of my desktop!
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I still like Cinnamon better. To quote Jeremy Clarkson, “This is brilliant, but I like this.”
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Nice to see others get it, 22 years after I got it, even if it did take a hella load more egregious malware impositions.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Gee, very encouraging of you.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Depends how you interpret it.
Linux has been easy that long. Contrary to the message that goes around that it’s hard. This indeed is very encouraging.
Windows is abusing you. Contrary to the message that goes around that it’s your only salvation. This is indeed very encouraging.
If interpreting that instead as “I’m so great, you’re all slow” self aggrandising put down of others, it’ll be a turn-off to many. But that’s not the case. It’s more like, “even I! you can too!” in all humility and positive encouragement.
Interpretation’s a bitch.
1984@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Best desktop in the world, no joke.
udon@lemmy.world 4 months ago
*Least terrible
Raptorox@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
If yours is terrible then that’s a skill issue tbh
Integrate777@discuss.online 4 months ago
Yeah, really do it ok? Not only are you helping yourself, you’re helping the clueless execs at microsoft who still have no idea why people dislike their stupid spy AI thingy.
Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
[deleted]phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Who are you talking to?
Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
I had blocked the user, might have been before writing my reply. I guess that caused it to fail to the top level, weird. Deleted the comment as it doesn’t make any sense there.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Too bad Linux completely abandoned accessibility with Wayland by putting accessibility API implementations up to the distros. Which, by far, don’t. And when they do it’s fragmented as fuck.
Making Linux an absolute no go for anyone that needs accessibility tools like Talon, which does work on X11 APIs. Since those were actually consistent.
tirednapstablook@lemmings.world 4 months ago
I’ve been using Wayland for months and haven’t noticed any glaring differences between it and X11.
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 4 months ago
I really do not like such comments. Do free alternatives always have to be better than everything else? Even if people would find out that Facebook was always watching them via their cameras and were selling their nude pictures to the Hezbollah, someone will jump into the comments and say that they can’t use Mastodon, because some bogus reason. Yeah, accessibility could be better, but have you even taken a look at whatever nightmare UIs Microsoft has been pushing for years?
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s not about being better than everything else.
It’s about literally maintaining the same capabilities that it had before that don’t alienate an entire class of users.
Accessibility apis are non-optional for accessibility tools that many individuals require in order to use their device effectively.
That’s a pretty big difference from what you seem to be thinking. We’re not talking about how the user interface looks here.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Accessibility apis on Windows and Mac actually work and are actually consistent.
They’re only consistent across Linux Desktop environments if you are using X11. Wayland kills that
I think most of the commenters that are replying to me or completely missing this point
Jeremyward@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Also, linux is open source. Heck with arch you can compile your own. Dont like the accessibility tools? Be the change you wanna see.
amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What are you talking about? Sorry but it is these types of comments that confuse new users. Same with the systems init.d bullshit.
I am running endeavour os on my laptop with kde Wayland and I have absolutely no issues. None! Sure there are some fringe cases but for the large majority Linux is working flawlessly!
HereIAm@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What are you talking about? They weren’t talking about the large majority, they’re explicitly talking about the minority who needs accessibility tools to use a computer. I personally don’t know what these deficiencies are, but i can imagine with Wayland’s strong security focus, screen readers would be busted.
mlg@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Wayland is responsible for kneecapping linux desktop in so many ways its infuriating, especially since linux basically figured out the golden standard of UX design back in the 2000s with stuff like GNOME 2 and Compiz.
It’s such an unnecessary burden with progress as slow as ripoff projects like star citizen.
I hope valve picks up the slack with frog protocols or at least gets PRs merged, because it would be stupid to ship steam machine and then explain to the user that the clipboard doesn’t work yet, even though it used to work perfectly fine in X11.
Raptorox@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Have you last used wayland 6 years ago??
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 4 months ago
Except accessibility, Wayland has been a huge upgrade over X11.
Much better security isolation, proper HDR, full multi-monitor support, full VRR support, better application scaling, no screen tearing and reduced latency. (The clipboard also works fine)
Without Wayland I would not be on Linux right now.
gergolippai@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“Tech journalists” installing linux in 2025 like it’s this hot new tech is not exactly the early adoptership I’d expect from them :)
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
I felt late to the party in 2003. Been quite the ride watching others suffer windows this long yet.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 4 months ago
For ~97% of the computer using population it is a hot new tech.
Compared to the state of consumer-grade Linux 5 years ago to today, it’s absolutely a hot new tech.
One cannot understate the impact that the Steam Deck and Proton had on driving consumer-friendly features to Linux simply from the demand of an exploding user base.
goodboyjojo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Gaming on Linux has gotten way better than what is was a few years ago.
RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
What’s the easiest and most secure linux distro for a non-techie? This is for a spare thinkpad I want to try linux on.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Come on in a few weeks? I thought it’d be the whole process and not just the planning stages…
pticrix@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Installed Mint last week. I already ported most of my personal stuff there ; as a user of FOSS software, it was a breeze. Still dual booting Windows because of work, but I’ll start trying to see if I can get the required tools to work on there too.
For now, my biggest issue was that connecting my Bluetooth headphones to both Linux and Windows was fucky but, lo and behold, there was a guide online that told me exactly how to make sure both OS had the same one.
It’s not a painless experience yet, but it’s way less painful than what it was running Win95 back then. And it feels so good to finally flip Microsoft the bird.
roserose56@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
If you going to install Linux, install something basic like Ubuntu, fedora, mint and pop is!
Now tons of people will start searching for cachyos, because the vegre did.unphazed@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ve been mostly Windows free for 6 months now. I use Win 11 for work and I bought an old Surface Pro 4 with Win 11 installed to learn Nomad Sculpt. I am just too afraid of testing Linux on a machine tailor made around Windows.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m not going to dwell on how annoying it is that it took people THIS LONG to get off the Windows train. I’m just happy to see the world changing for the better.
Welcome to civilization, new Linux users!
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
When will it be the year of actually being able to read articles?
Linux has been great for me for over 20 years, but the damn internet continues to get worse.
Kirk@startrek.website 4 months ago
🤞pleasejustpickbazzite pleasejustpickbazzite pleasejustpickbazzite🤞
I’m going to install CachyOS, an Arch-based distro
oh god dammit
mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 months ago
The most successful Linux distros are ones that normal people are not aware they use at all. Most people dont install operating systems, they just use whatever comes with the device. To them its an appliance.
Android is a flavor of Linux and is widely successful.
Ive seen libraries use Linux and a browser and the machines worked for decades.
And there are quite a few Amazon tablets, ebook readers, etc… all using linux.Theres a never ending number of examples out there.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“…Based on listening to two and a half episodes of Dual Boot Diaries and a brief text conversation with Will, I’m going to install CachyOS, an Arch-based distro optimized for gaming on modern hardware, with support for cutting-edge CPUs and GPUs and an allegedly easy setup…”
One of the most important lessons I learned from using Linux: Follow the packs, use the distros that a lot of people use not just some recommendation on some ranking sites / youtube vids. Ffs, might as well use vanilla Arch at that point so you can find answers faster. . Even Mint or Ubuntu LTS is a solid option.
The problem with new distros is that it is very hard to find answers to problems. General questions? Sure you can find help. Some bugs that mess up your system? You better pray to the GNU Gods that your distro spins are not that different from the original, e.g. Regolith’s i3wm vs normal i3wm…
ogeist@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Oh man, don’t read the comments, sad to see the smartasses saying “report back when you install windows again in two months” while getting utterly fucked by Windows.
I mean, I understand being resistant to change but being a fanatic of Windows or anything for that matter just because that’s all you know is really ignorant, it’s not a sports team for fucks sake, of course it’s not easy switching and you will have problems just dont be afraid to ask and read the error warning.
Rant over
I use Windows for work and I miss Win10, I don’t like it but I’m aware that’s currently the target of most Consumer SW for good reason but that reason is starting to break (say it with me! BAD BUSINESS DECISIONS!!!).
Happy to see Linux getting mainstream, not all comments are bad but I the trolls got me.
Grim@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
I tried, but the DPI options in all distros I tried are too limited for my needs. I have one 4k monitor and two 1080p monitors. Zorin OS 18 only allowed me to set 200% on all screens IF they were all mirrored, so completely useless for me. I’m not using the terminal either. I want my main screen to be at 150% or so, or I can’t see shit, and my side monitors to be (obviously not mirrored) at 100% DPI.
If anyone knows of a distro that allows the same settings as Windows for three monitors, please advice. I want to jump ship, I really do.
paequ2@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Whoa, surprised this is coming from The Verge. Is it really the year of the Linux desktop now??
LostWanderer@fedia.io 4 months ago
If only the author actually reported on the post install experience, that would've been helpful for people looking to switch to a Linux distro...Kinda annoying they paywalled the article (thankfully, you've provided an Archive Link). I do agree with the author's suspicions that Windows is only going to get worse due to the AI bullshit that Microsoft is infecting Windows with; Windows, is at a breaking point because vibe coding is ruining update quality, a human hand is key to maintaining such a complex OS.
After seeing the writing on the wall during the initial Recall situation, I permanently switched to Ubuntu (dabbled in other distros, before returning to Ubuntu). Gotta say, having full control over my operating system is nice. I only borked it around 11 times in the years of being on Ubuntu and others (mostly due to devil may care experimentation and a healthy amount of backed up data). Most of the time, I even recovered from the TTYL 3 screen, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. Linux is in a better place than years past, Ubuntu, Zorin OS, and Mint are very usable for beginners who just want a PC that works. Valve's experimentation with Linux and funding development work done by Arch and others has smoothed out a lot of the bug bears associated with gaming, there are few barriers to entry.
Outside the hostile big publishers who use anti-cheat that makes their games not run on a Linux distro via Proton Compatibility Layer (Rockstar are the prime assholes doing this, among others I can't rightly recall).
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 4 months ago
In general:
W11: fire up office, oops wait, it wants to set itself as default and for some reason needs you to buy a one drive subscription for that. How about some copilot? Are you sure? How about we wrap it in edge? Oh, but you can install OpenOffice by all means, but it’s not going to be the default app right? RIGHT?!!!
Oh you want to save the file to your harddrive? Look, how do I put this,… there is no more harddrive.
Linux: type one line in the terminal and there you go. Write a novel if you want.
azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
It’s bad Windows gets so much bad press these days, the longer they stay in denial the better
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Ironic that now Linux is the more “just works” os.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Unfortunately, it goes more like this…
Linux: type one line in the terminal? Lose 98% of the potential userbase.
The masses hate the terminal, for some reason, and it scares them away.
titanicx@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Yeah but fortunately is 98% of the masses will never have to touch the terminal at all. Unless they get curious. Hell my girl and boys have been on Linux for several years and they have no issues touching anything and doing anything like a standard operating system. Anything more advanced they just hand me the computer and I take care of. I’ve introduced other customers and people to Linux re-image laptops and desktops and servers to it and they’ve never had any issues running it without even worrying about the command line.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
If you are doing stuff in Linux that requires the terminal, you were probably making edits to the registry in Windows or pasting in wild powershell lines from online guides.
No need for 98% of the user base to ever touch the terminal. Open whatever software store comes with your distro, click install next to whatever you want.
The only exception to that is that sometimes, when a trusted person is supporting you through something, giving them a line to paste into a terminal might be quicker than walking them through all the clicks of a gui. Sometimes.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
for some reason…
several.
mostly conditioning by their abuser pretending to be their salvation. atrophying their potential and capacity and curiosity, deluding them about the challenge and diminishing their curiosity, hiding from them their growing empowerment, terrifying them about calamities technical and social with slippery slope fallacies, all both subconsciously and overtly. + the biases implanted inside the controlled user-lock-in bubble.