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PRUSA releases the OpenPrintTag, open source standard for filament spool identification and data tracking

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨3dprinting@lemmy.world⁩

https://blog.prusa3d.com/the-openprinttag-is-here-a-brand-new-nfc-tag-standard-for-smart-filament-is-now-shipped-with-a-new-redesigned-prusament-spool_123878/

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  • Kuro@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And that is the reason why buying Prusa is so much better than buying Bambu Labs. They care about open standards and the community.

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    • Kushan@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m still sore after Bambu’s whole slicer locking down bullshit, but you can’t deny that Bambu also got the entire 3D printing industry to pull their collective fingers out and start actually making great printers that “just work” - including prusa, who were very clearly caught off guard as well. Before Bambu came along people were still recommending Ender’s as a good “first printer”, which is all you need to know. Now there’s a ton of good options (including prusa).

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      • Kuro@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I do you one better, I admit that I was a few times on the fence on buying a Bambu Printer exactly because of this. But the Apple approach they are pursuing was always off putting. Nonetheless they pushed the whole industry to new goals, which is very nice.

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    • ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I had a Prusa Mk3 for many years. Extremely reliable and open printer if you don’t use the MMU.

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      • hash@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        LAN only A1 mini with AMS for me. I will switch to Prusa eventually. But I never put in the effort to use my Ender 3 much, so the bambu ease of use pitch was what I was looking for.

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    • rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      My first printer was Prusa MINI and it sucked so much. Something constantly stuck or broken.

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      • TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Odd, I had the exact opposite experience. That thing is still going strong with next to no maintenance.

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      • Kuro@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t know what was wrong with your printer but the support should have figured it out and given you spare parts to fix it.

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  • inzen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hmm, seems like a decent idea. Definitely better than closed tag systems.

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    • ikirin@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Definitely! Mostly looking forward to see how/if other printers (especially Klipper) will support it

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      • Zikeji@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        For an open source system I think it’s mainly just a matter of when. Granted there are currently complaints with the licensing for the system, so that might hurt/kill traction.

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      • inzen@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Support in Klipper sounds amazing. There could be open repositories of printing parameters. Not 100% sure how Klipper would pass the info to the slicer but that seems solvable.

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  • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s the problem that spool tags solve?

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If the tag is read-only, it can allow:

      • marginally better loading, as the printer can heat the nozzle correctly for that filament without input from the user.
      • Comparing a G-code file to the loaded filament, either to throw a filament mismatch error, or to adjust temperature settings on the fly.
      • Allow slicer software with a network or serial attachment to the printer sense what filament is loaded

      If the tag is writable, it can allow for keeping track of how much filament remains on the spool, by writing how much was consumed during each print. This means, when you get to the end of the spool, the printer can warn you if there isn’t enough filament remaining without having to manually track the mass of the spool.

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      • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Why does the holder not just weigh the spool? Should be a better estimate of remaining filament as it does not rely on perfect bookkeeping.

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      • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sounds like an application for print farms.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As a novice with a bambu lab printer, the rfid has saved me and my wife a couple of times from messing up with the wrong settings. Most of what we have is pla but the occasional petg and abs cause a surprise.

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      • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I would think that comes with experience. Each to their own I suppose. If it makes the technology more accessible, I’m all for it, but not at the cost of increased prices.

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    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      By itself, it’s does not solve anything.

      However it gives some extra data that can be used by the printer firmware.

      The NFC tag contains data about the right printing temperatures, the color, the amount of filament left in there spool …

      So a lot of QOL features can be developed with that. For example

      • having a message of the amount of filament left in not enough to finish the print I’m about to start,
      • auto adjust temperatures depending on the loaded filament,
      • importing a library of available filament in the slicer just by taping the spool on the NFC reader.
      • using this library of filament for multicolor/multi material printing. So instead of printing selecting each head individually in the slicer and then having to remember to load the right filament, right color in each head you can just select the filament you actually want and the printer will manage.
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      • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Alot of poka-yoke stuff then?

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  • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I wonder if an external DIY sensor could be attached to unsupported printers so the signal/standard could be utilized. Maybe for something like the Creality line it would be as simple as a small display indicating detected filament parameters (for the user to input in the config).

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    • bluGill@fedia.io ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I'm sure the likes of Bambu will never support this, but lots of other makes likely will. Some will jump all in right away (it is cheap and a useful feature for their customers), others will jump in when forced. Some of the cheap ones will never jump in because that is $.50 they don't want to spend.

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There are USB NFC readers. Someone could add support for that to Klipper.

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  • pipe01@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s sick, I would love to see this become commonplace

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  • altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Its a trap. How about just a setting that you type in?

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    • Kushan@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “a” setting?

      Do you have any idea how many settings there actually are for a proper print profile? Never mind usage amounts which are tedious to track.

      You can also just not use it.

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      • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No no, they mean a 128 character, case sensitive, alphanumeric code. Just type it in.

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  • JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Nice! I’m excited!

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