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unapologetic Lower Decks supremacy post
Submitted 1 year ago by carr0ts@startrek.website to risa@startrek.website
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carr0ts@startrek.website 1 year ago
GuyFleegman@startrek.website 1 year ago
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I enjoy this image immensely.
jerrimu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ok cannon
zephr_c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’ve never personally understood why people get so obsessed with which works of fiction are more real. It’s just a silly thing to worry about.
AngeloRosethorn@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It adds to the cohesive narrative which can make the overall story telling experience better. When works are considered canon, that’s usually an indicator that the overall franchise narrative is being cared for and thought of.
It can also mean that some aspects of one show can show up in another or vice versa. It’s very cool to see a character you really like. Show up in another medium.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year ago
I fully agree, but I also think that there's too much focus these days on official canon. Copyright might mean that only one big giant corporation is allowed to make stories "set" in a particular universe, but that shouldn't mean that fans can't decide for themselves "nope, that was lame, I reject that particular bit." And if enough fans share that opinion the big giant corporation might want to listen to them.
zephr_c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
For your second point, you can do that without worrying about canon. In fact it’s easier if you don’t.
For the first one, that can be interesting for a single coherent work with a single writer or team of writers that planned out at least an outline of a story beforehand, but there are rarely questions about canon for those kinds of stories. For something worked on for over half a century by hundreds if not thousands of people many of whom have very different visions for what it should all be about, in my experience it just leads to people getting mad at each other based on which of those visions they like more, and lots of self-contradictory nonsense crammed into the story to try and make it all work. That is just my opinion though. You are free to like different things than I do.
jerrimu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m mentally ill and tbh I cannot do non canon. I want the whole picture as painted, not with sticky notes everywhere.
Except Starbucks dad was a cylon, it’s the only way it all makes sense.
zephr_c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Fair.
Especially_the_lies@startrek.website 1 year ago
I honestly wasn’t thinking I’d see my username corrupted, but I love the meme!
cybervseas@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s like the perfect frame of Mariner. Wow.
GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 1 year ago
Yeah TAS canonicity confirmed lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 year ago
M’Ress is on our list. volcel-judge
CaptainPike@beehaw.org 1 year ago
Honestly the constant bitching about ‘NuTrek’ is what makes me avoid Star Trek fans most of the time. I can rattle off episode names, quote the show, cite lines in episodes. Hell, I technically worked on a Trek show. Nothing makes me more embarassed than the incessant bitching and whining about how the new stuff isn’t canon or how it supposedly breaks canon or how the writing sucks. People who have legitimate criticisms, voice them as such, but are still polite or at least optimistic? You people are heroes. But the rest of you who just throw stuff at the show and say how it sucks? Fuck y’all. We are getting new Star Trek after the franchise being abandoned for years and your first reaction is to bitch and whine.
Hell yes it’s all canon. Hell yes the animation is amazing. I have a UFP flag on my wall and I’m proud of it.
echo@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
the funniest thing about people who constantly complain about “nutrek” is that half of them haven’t even seen TOS so the show that’s “real trek” to them is literally just the nutrek og fans were saying ruined star trek in the late 80s
DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 year ago
Oh God, so much this. I do not understand the blind hate for nutrek. Lower decks is hilarious, discovery fucking went for it, Picard gave us three of the most interesting story lines, SNW is throwing some of the best classic style storylines at us we’ve seen since Shatner could fit in his girdle, Prodigy has done a damn good job of making trek something parents can watch with their bains and not want to blow their brains out.
Honestly, I think a bunch of people (myself included to a degree) got so upset over the Klingons in disco that they’ve collectively decided anything after that is shit.
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I totally got the hate at first. I thought early Discovery and Picard were terrible. What I don’t get is people who have made hating new Trek such an identity, they’re unable to ever shift position despite Discovery picking up from S3, Picard blowing it out the water with S3 and all the other new shows hitting the gate running. Not being able to change your view in the face of new evidence is the least Trek thing you can do.
CaptainPike@beehaw.org 1 year ago
I’m not going to lie. I had the same issue with the klingons at first. Not over their appearance, funnily enough. I thought it was an interesting take and considering the fact that klingons in TOS just looked like dudes I waved away an alien race looking a bit different. The thing that enraged me was the language. Either the dude who played T’kuvma had no time to practice Klingon or he had a truly terrible false teeth set that made it impossible for him to speak Klingon.
I did completely discount Discovery until Season 2 started and I decided to give it another shot by starting from the top. I’m so very glad I did. I have critiques of all the shows, and I mean OG and Nu, but I still love them all the same. Me being a gay dude and finally getting proper representation in Star Trek does mean that Discovery did get into my good graces very quickly. It’s just nice to see a character that’s like me for a change instead of sitting through the 17 trillionth heterosexual love story.
DrChaotica@startrek.website 1 year ago
Honestly, I think a bunch of people (myself included to a degree) got so upset over the Klingons in disco that they’ve collectively decided anything after that is shit.
My nutrek hate is way more about JJ’s galaxy-wide plot holes than it is Disco Klingons.
reddig33@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Here’s hoping we get a m’ress appearance on Strange New worlds then.
thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 1 year ago
M’Ress and T’Ana’s fur coloration is so similar… I want an Easter Egg where we just see the Libido Post in M’Ress’s quarters… and it’s the same one.
GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 1 year ago
Me too.
roofuskit@kbin.social 1 year ago
Canon to the left of them, canon to the right of them!
aeronmelon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
…Canon in front of them contradicted and blundered.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 year ago
…Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
roofuskit@kbin.social 1 year ago
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right...
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 year ago
:SickoTendi:
Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Exquisite work!
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Unapologetic “Nutrek sux” comment
carr0ts@startrek.website 1 year ago
🤡 🤡
RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 1 year ago
*shrugs and goes back 427th rewatch of TNG/DS9/VOY in chronological order
norbert@kbin.social 1 year ago
Chronological in the show or by air-date?
Also Lower Decks is great.
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 year ago
There’s a world of difference between Lower Decks and, say, Discovery/Picard. The further away from Kurtzman, the better.
nxdefiant@startrek.website 1 year ago
I’m gonna be that guy. I loved Disco and Picard. I even liked Enterprise.
meldroc@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well, a subspace anomaly turned the universe into a musical, who’s to say another one in a parallel universe didn’t turn everyone into cartoons?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
When did they animate a cannon?
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Jim Kirk had one on each side of his torso.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, that was spillover when his girdle started to fail
xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 1 year ago
I want the image trace you did of Mariner’s head, it’s so perfect
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year ago
I've been pretty down on modern Star Trek, but Lower Decks really shines out because IMO it's being made by people who clearly love Star Trek.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can’t forget Strange New Worlds.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year ago
I've been a bit wobbly on Strange New Worlds. It's had some rough episodes, though overall I'm liking it and it's had some stellar episodes as well. Not as consistently good as Lower Decks, though.
jerrimu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Modern trek wonderful, everything after tng is better than the first two series.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year ago
Heh, we have different cutoffs for "modern Star Trek." My dividing line is the JJ Abrams movie.