The forums are to be avoided. You can't even have an honest non-political discussion in them because it is filled with immature asshole trolls with somehow too much time on their hands. I'm permabanned from Steams official forums because of just suggesting we get rid of the jester award. Cue in legions of fuckheads storming in 16 pages worth of my reviews and flagging nearly all of them with jester awards. Fuck that shithole.
It's even astounding how one of the trolls, was married and has a kid. What a life that guy has to find so much time to be an asshole online while having a family. "Uh sorry honey, I'm too busy owning someone online because they had an opinion I don't like, I'm not going to have dinner with you tonight."
missingno@fedia.io 1 day ago
Steam Forums are one of the worst hellholes I've seen on the modern internet, and Valve does nothing. Any game that gets declared a target by the post-Gamergate crowd ends up having its board seiged until it's unusable for any kind of actual discussion.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Valve’s hands-off philosophy with almost all of their social components is one of those massive double-edged swords, as anyone who trades steam items will tell you as well.
Alcyonaria@piefed.world 1 day ago
Valve could easily fix it by making game discussions default to owners only, but they've always been a shitty company so they dont bother
Nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
If they would, no one could ask anything pre purchase.
But I also don’t like the forum in there because of the bad atmosphere. Also I don’t know whether it is because of a special group or because the general communication style in games is toxic, dumb, aggressive and egoistical as fuck… Like in almost every ingame chat.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Don’t the developers have moderation capabilities?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Yes, but they are almost never exercised unless it involves legal requirements - Valve’s ideals are very much “We will not bother anyone unless we have to”, which is nice for people who want to forge spaces but sucks when people show up to be shitheads.
zecg@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not Valve’s job to provide a liberal education and loving community for the young’uns, the only thing Valve can do is censor discussions and ban people for what they are saying. Like tiktok is doing with “Israel is controlling the U.S. through AIPAC”.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Except they don’t, which is the problem. Moderation of the forums is pushed off on developers, publishers and volunteers, and Valve only gets involved if they absolutely have to. It makes effective moderation of the forums dedicated to games made by small and solo devs functionally impossible, and allows for rampant abuse of the systems by publishers, such as Take Two marking negative reviews as “off-topic”.
Brosplosion@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I don’t see how it’s Valves problem. They are a marketplace and essentially rent a store front to developers. Forum moderation for a specific game should be up to the developer/publisher.
It’s like if you rented a spot in a stripmall, and you want the stripmall owner to come clean the floors when people come into your shop and piss on your floor. Don’t want to manage your own forum, then disable user posts entirely.
missingno@fedia.io 1 day ago
I don't believe that's an option. I know one indie dev that actually told me they wished they could just not have a Steam forum because they hate it.
sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 1 day ago
Wahhh, people are saying things I don’t like on the internet!
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Shut up bitch ass troll.
This is why you sleep alone every night.