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Tesla FSD turns off more U.S. consumers than it attracts, survey finds

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨vegeta@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/28/tesla-fsd-turns-away-more-us-consumers-than-attracts-survey-finds.html

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  • Assassassin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is it FSD, or is it the volatile Nazi at the head of the company?

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    • NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Genuinely both, but the latter is the #1 reason. Seriously though, it’s like every Tesla accident I hear about is FSD related. I get that people are dumb (in general), but it’s not entirely their fault when Elon keeps/kept talking about how FSD is really “full” self driving.

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      • Assassassin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Anyone who buys the fsd license at this point deserves the disappointment. It’s been “a year or two away” for a decade now. At some point, ignorance isn’t a good excuse. I think that point was before 2020. In 2025, you have to actively avoid or block out the information that musk is a grifting Nazi.

        It’s like the people that buy into the idea that ICE is only deporting criminals. You have to either be in deep denial, or a complete idiot.

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      • eronth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        it’s like every Tesla accident I hear about is FSD related.

        I mean, that just kinda makes sense. Regular accidents aren’t really newsworthy. Even if they are, it tends not to be worth mentioning what manufacturer the car is.

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    • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or the lie that it’s full self driving in general.

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  • Paradox@lemdro.id ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I only recently found out that FSD treats you like a poorly behaved toddler, with its stupid strike system. For those who are unaware, if the car doesn’t think you’re holding on to the steering wheel and paying attention to the road, it gives you a strike. Once you have one strike, you can’t use FSD for the duration of that drive. Once you get three strikes, it’s disabled for an indeterminate time period, typically a week, but you can find reports of drivers being locked out for a year or longer. Keep in mind, this is a feature you have to pay extra money for, on a subscription basis

    My Subaru doesn’t give a shit if I accidentally let go of the steering wheel on a drive with its its lane keep assist system enabled, it just beeps at me with increasing urgency, while still doing its job

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m sure it hands out strikes if you’re driving in a straight line for long periods.

      More than once I’ve been warned to keep my hands on the wheel because the highway is long and straight.

      Imagine paying $50,000 to be bossed around by shitty AI.

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    • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I own a Tesla with FSD. This is not quite accurate. Tesla uses pressure in the steering wheel and a cabin camera to evaluate driver attentiveness. If you haven’t applied pressure to the wheel in a while, there is a flashing blue warning on the screen. If you still don’t apply pressure to the wheel, it beeps. If you still don’t apply pressure to the wheel after the beep for a few seconds, you get a strike and it locks out for the rest of the drive. Or if you get repeated beeps on the same drive, like seven or eight, it locks out for the rest of the drive and you get a strike.
      If you are looking away from the road for more than about 10 seconds, it beeps. Same as above, get seven or eight beeps on one drive and it locks out for the rest of the drive and you get a strike.
      I believe it’s currently at five strikes before FSD disables for 2 weeks. If you go for 2 weeks without getting a strike, one is removed.

      The nag system is annoying. On the highway, it’s very good, usually better than I am as a human. However even with the nags it is still a huge benefit, and I think it makes me safer because I am more of a supervisor than an operator and I can spend more of my attention looking out in other directions and keeping better situational awareness overall.

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      • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s… Still terrible, you see that, right? Disabling a feature that I’ve paid for for any reason, at all, is unacceptable.

        The parenting behavior of big tech companies is insulting.

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    • Oderus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      With Supervised FSD, there’s no need to touch the steering wheel. Only with Autosteer Beta do you need to keep a hand on the steering wheel, and that’s free.

      It’s also either lifetime or a monthly fee which you can cancel anytime. For my Model S it’s $11K Canadian for lifetime or $100CAD/mo for monthly which means it’d take me over 8 years to break even between the two.

      I like Supervised FSD but I wouldn’t pay for lifetime and I only really use it when I’m doing long road trips. It’s awesome for that but I don’t rely on it for daily driving. I do think it drives better than 95% of drivers out there which is impressive.

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      • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        $100 a month? That’s fucked

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  • GroundedGator@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Look at the robo taxi situation they have going. The same tech that is stopping people off in the middle of the road is what is being used for FSD.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we found out that the whole thing is a scam and there is some sweat shop full of teenagers remotely driving cars. I feel like the random stops where they shouldn’t stop is exactly how someone who learns how to drive playing GTA would drive.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That would be hilarious.

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  • vegeta@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If only they would have given Elmo his 58 billion dollar pay package, they wouldn’t be in this mess…

    /s

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    • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But they did…

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      • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Just 50 more bro, I swear, this will fix it!

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      • bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This month Musk got another $29 billion worth of Tesla shares.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FSD = Full Self-Driving, saved you a clickbait.

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Damn, I’m disappointed. I was hoping somebody suddenly invented the Frame-Shift Drive over-night.

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  • ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I like driving fast cars, I don’t need a shitty computer to try to do it for me.

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  • Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FSD = Fulla Shit Driving

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  • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *Feature that is both late and doesn’t work properly

    Turns off consumers. On top of the fascism…

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  • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    hey I bet that would change if they fixed it killing people.

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    • hackitfast@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Part of what pisses me off is that Tesla doesn’t use LiDAR, it uses cameras. So in sub optional conditions, like the ones where it kills people, LiDAR would resolve those outlier cases.

      But he’ll never do that because he likes how his own farts smell.

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      • YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They know.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or killed the right people.

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      • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Elon is working on that feature as we speak!

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s been my experience that people are really resistant to handing over control to the computer - not FSD, but simple active cruise control and lane centring.

    Personally I like it, because I can offload some cognitive load while still being actively involved in driving; I don’t trust any of the self driving tech to be unsupervised.

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  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait, you mean people don’t want to buy a vehicle that throws you into incoming traffic and hits children in the street at full speed?

    Or maybe it’s the Nazi that leads it who stole all our public funds for his little electric car and space race things.

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  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s the Nazi shit. Not the product itself. Just like Canada’s grassroots boycott of american goods. It’s the implied invasion 51st state talk, not the tariffs.

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    • fluxion@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also lack of trust in a product that requires due diligence, accountability, and transparency to implement properly, something we’ve seen from competitors but with Tesla it’s only Elon’s hand-wavy assurances which tend to be an indicator of what WON’T be delivered rather than what will. So it’s Elon, but not just the fact that he’s a Nazi.

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean the product itself is also shit.

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  • Geodad@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Maybe if he didn’t cheap out and used lidar instead of cameras…

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