i know people usually are like, “oh cool new features”
but this has a security patch that will literally unblock my pipelines at work lol 🎉
The Debian project is proud to release Debian 13 "Trixie", a major update that brings new features, updated components, and numerous other improvements
Submitted 1 day ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.debian.org/News/2025/20250809
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chrash0@lemmy.world 1 day ago
shrugs@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sounds interesting. Care to elaborate?
chrash0@lemmy.world 1 day ago
i don’t know the full nature of the exploit, but
zlibhas an exploitable integer overflow via the MiniZip project. even though our images don’t use that project.
gmtom@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Hell yeah, i love Debian, its such a Great and Powerful OS.
Jhex@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Great and Powerful OS.
loved this
FourThirteen@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Debian is my favorite distro. I’ve used it for years.
SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 day ago
Speaking of debian - anyone here running debian testing as a daily driver? I really enjoy debian as a kind of “default” Linux but the rare updates and the need to upgrade the whole system when a major update hits annoys me, so rolling release feels better, but I’m worried Debian Testing is unstable? But I’ve heard it’s not so bad? Anyone got any opinion on that?
CountVon@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Debian Testing is unstable?
Naw, Debian Unstable is unstable. /s
Jokes aside, I don’t think I’d use Debian as a daily driver for desktop Linux, and I really like Debian. Now, for a server? Debian all day erry day. But as soon as a GUI is needed, I’m gonna look to another distro. For context though, that’s mainly because my daily driver needs to be gaming capable, and I have a very recent GPU. Debian 13 has Mesa 25.0, but 25.1 and 25.2 have fixes that keep some of the games I play from crapping out.
sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah, if you really want a taste of Debian desktop, LMDE is probably where I’d start.
SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 day ago
So what distro do you use? I definitely am also considering gaming in the considerations.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I like it for desktop, but for me XFCE is all I need. I figure I want to mostly focus on the application I’m using not the Window Manager. I click the icon, application opens and I do stuff, and occassionally run apt update && apt upgrade and kinda forget the OS is even there.
With games I tend to have more issues with older games becoming broken after awhile than with new games not working because the OS is old. Only problems I’ve had with new games is because I had a computer that was >10 years old and eventually the hardware couldn’t run new games anymore. But then I mostly play strategy games and base builder games, so maybe that’s why I don’t have a lot of issues there.
Debian is the best OS for people that don’t want to think about the OS.
Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
Daily friver here. Stable for servers, testing for workstations.
Debian Testing isn’t as stable as Stable, but has been far more reliable than anyone else’s desktop releases. I’m also not a fan of Fedora and others’ policy of ending support on the day of a new release.
If for some reason you decide to hold back on an upgrade of Testing, you’ve still got five years of patch support coming. And if I do want to live on the bleeding edge, there’s always Sid (also called Unstable). That’s where you’ll run into the kind of instability you can expect from a rolling release.
My favorite will probably always be Gentoo, but I don’t always have time for that hobby.
Keyboard@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I’m not a fan of fedora too I have to agree with you
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
I have been running testing for years on most (except production servers or as i like to call them: Computers with a job) of my machines including desktop and gaming pc.
It works fine, BUT there will be times when something is not as it should (one recent example was some wayland related glitches, but nothing really bad), or you buy new hardware and need the latest graphics drives that are not even in testing yet.
It’s perfectly viable to use AND you get to help make debian better with the occational bug report/additional info.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It’s sometimes unstable. But sometimes it’s mostly stable.
testing, stable, oldstable, etc are pointers to named branches (named after Toy Story characters BTW). Unstable is also a pointer but it always points to sid (the neighbour kid that breaks the toys).
Testing isn’t a rolling release. Yesterday testing pointed to trixie. Today stable points to trixie (because testing was completed and trixie has been “released”) and testing now points to forky which is a new branch that is basically a copy of unstable. They’ll do testing on forky and fix things and eventually stable will be pointed at forky (which will be Debian 14) and they’ll make a new testing branch called something else.
It’s an odd thing to call things “released” on a project that’s done openly. Debian 13 was just released today, but you can install what will be Debian 14 right now long before it’s released by installing forky. You can also contribute to their testing by submitting bug reports. But if you do install forky (testing) today, don’t be too disappointed if there’s a bunch of things broken because it’s the same as unstable right now. It will get more reliable as things are fixed and eventually be considered as stable. When Debian 14 is “released” you won’t need to upgrade anything if you’re on forky because you’ll have already been on it for a year or more.
But yeah, unstable is unstable, it’s just somewhere people can chuck packages on and experiment. Things will break there. Testing is testing, it’s there if you want to help out with testing. And stable is stable, you get that if you want something reliable and you don’t want to mess around with software occasionally breaking and having to track down what broke and submit bug reports.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
Not me, i just use Stable Debian.
I only Put Debian Stable on Computers I will rarely use. I wouldn’t use Debian on a Gaming pc, I would prefer a rolling release (Arch based) Or fix release every 6 monthsSorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 day ago
On a gaming PC, what arch distro would you use?
Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
I used to run Debian Testing and it borked my install - never had that problem on e.g. Arch. I feel like because it’s not a rolling release as the default but explicitly for developers, it’s less stable. But that might just have been bad luck.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah, since 2000 I’ve always had a laptop with -testing. I’m just a user, but a user who wholly enjoyed the early days of Gentoo, overnight compiles and all.
I still fly on Windows. MSFS and IL Stormvik used to be my favorites, x-plane works on Linux just fine now. For the past 5 years I’ve been all Elite: Dangerous. E:D works with some fiddling under Linux but the helper programs are probably a real PITA. No drivers for the eye tracker at all (not Linux devs fault)
Understand, I don’t edit images and if the doc doesn’t work in libre I fire up a virtual machine and do the little dance to get the form or whatever filled out and then back to the real world. VM only connects to the internet for updates, never comms.
All of my important stuff happens on Linux or now Calyx on my pixel. Fuck MS, fuck apple and fuuuuuuck Larry Ellison for what he did to Sun
stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I daily drive Debian and I switched to Trixie once the tooling freeze kicked in. Now the release is stable I’ll be able to enable backports for the few bits and pieces I like to have the latest packages for. Generally I want a rock solid base and I can always use flatpak/snap for more recent apps.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I used to, and the going wisdom there is to point it to the name of the next release, then once it releases, wait for the first point release before repeating with the next release.
The reasoning here is that once there’s a new release, there’s a ton of churn on testing as people pull in packages from unstable, so that’s the time of the most breakage. So wait a bit for things to stabilize after a major release.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Speaking of debian - anyone here running debian testing as a daily driver?
I do, though usually not early in the release cycle. Normally I use stable, then pull the occasional thing in from testing if I want it and it’s not in stable, and switch to testing if there’s a bunch of stuff I want.
dangrousperson@feddit.org 1 day ago
I’ve been running sid (unstable) on my htpc for almost a year now without any problems (wanted Debian, because that’s what I know, but also wanted HDR support, which came with plasma 6, wichich was only in sid). Just as stable as Bookworm so far (anecdotally).
I’ve actually been thinking of moving my main desktop from mint Debian edition over to sid as well.
Sid is even one step more unstable then testing, so testing should be no problem either
Netrunner@programming.dev 1 day ago
Been running SID forever on my servers. Thank you Debian for being my rock.
Keyboard@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I’m waiting to more feedbacks and I will try it after
Sunny@slrpnk.net 21 hours ago
Looove me some Debian!
Like a lot of other people here I only use Debian for servers. However i recently (couple of months ago) spun up PikaOS (gaming oriented OS) that is based om Debiam Testing but have applied the patches from CachyOS and Nobara. Its a been a pleasure to use so far and hope to see ots community grow.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Sorry, but 403GB?
That’s a lot of space for an OS, isn’t it?
pelya@lemmy.world 1 day ago
10 GB storage for default installation, 4 GB storage for commandline-only installation, 403 GB storage if you install every Debian package under the sun.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
I doubt it’s possible to have them all installed and have a functioning system anyway
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Ahhhhh, ok.
Wild… I think I might try to get my OS that big one day just for kicks
Quik@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Which you can’t even to because of conflicts/architecture availability.
dan@upvote.au 1 day ago
That’s how much space the whole of Debian takes up. Every package for every supported architecture.
A bare minimum installation of Debian is probably around 1GB or so? They recommend at least 4GB space for a server install and 10GB for a desktop.
morto@piefed.social 1 day ago
I find it a surprisingly low value. I can store all the current debian packages in my storage media at home, that's crazy! FOSS really tends to be lean and efficient.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I just looked, 11G on my laptop’s /
Standard productivity stuff, I think the only extra thing is a flatpack of google earth which is 1.5G
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Yeah and I know one of my laptops only has a 250GB drive.
I thought it was a typo at first, but it was explained. I get it now :)
stefenauris@pawb.social 1 day ago
Oh! That’s if you installed every piece of software they support! A regular installation is quite modestly sized, and install media is DVD sized.
I can see where that would be confusing though hehe
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Yeah no doubt no doubt. I thought it was maybe a typo or something and was supposed to be 4.3, like someone hit 0 on the numpad :D
It makes sense now
Dagamant@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That threw me for a second too. I thought “that’s a bit of a leap”. Like others said, it’s everything, not just the recommended packages.
soyboy77@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Noob here. My last distro was Zorin (which I liked well enough). Keen to switch to Debian base. Should I jump in and install vanilla Debian or wait for Mint Debian 7? Or should I believe the Distrowatch hype and go for MX?
Would prefer Xfce environment because I’ll be running it on 8+ yo laptop and and desktop.
thecoffeehobbit@sopuli.xyz 19 hours ago
Get base Debian, you’ll have more options for desktop environment. Once you get past the installation hassle it should just work for the rest of times. MX has its place but it’s specifically made to have no systemd which may not be something a new user is looking for. It feels very opinionated, is what I’m trying to say. May be your thing of course, but I’d recommend reading more on its philosophy before picking.
8 years is probably not old enough to require lighter desktops if the machines were at least mid range at the time. You should be able to use gnome or KDE as you please. Nothing against XFCE in principle, but it can be a little clunky especially for a laptop. No touch gestures, for example.
soyboy77@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
tnx for the reply
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If you’re a noob, what made you go with Debian in the first place?
I want to be clear, there’s nothing wrong with that, just not the usual path for a new Linux user.
soyboy77@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
I liked Zorin (often recommended for users coming from Windows) which is based off Ubuntu which in turn is based off Debian. Not a fan of Snaps, though. I also value stability over blistering performance and bleeding edge features.
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Update day! YES!
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Much love for Debian, favorite distro for servers. Any thoughts on running it as a desktop GUI?
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I’ve been running unstable for a couple decades now as my desktop. I’ve occasionally taken months-long forays into other distros, but always come back to Debian. It just works, which is what I care about.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It works well, so long as you don’t mind your DE being a bit behind the latest version. With how much Plasma and Gnome have been improving in the past couple of years, that may matter a lot.
To be honest, I think it makes more sense than it used to. You can have an extremely stable base, and if you want regularly updated user apps you can utilise Flatpaks.
pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
It works great with Plasma desktop
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It’s great. Not much else to say. You install it, it works, it doesn’t stop working unless you break it.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I have many times. apt install whatever desktop environment you want is usually a one-liner, and they are the un-modified stock versions, not themed to whatever fancies the distro maintainer. It has been my low-effort distro for a lot of years for any purpose. Packages are on the stale-side, so you might want to use different package container types for your preferred applications nowadays.
BackYardIncendiary@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
I’ve been running Debian stable on a ThinkPad as my everyday machine for over a decade. It just works. No issues.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Gnome finally has fractional scaling in this one, for anyone wondering.
FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 day ago
Does this mean it will run properly on systems with multiple, different resolution, displays?
dan@upvote.au 1 day ago
Should work as long as you’re using Wayland.