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A Prominent OpenAI Investor Appears to Be Suffering a ChatGPT-Related Mental Health Crisis, His Peers Say

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨return2ozma@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://futurism.com/openai-investor-chatgpt-mental-health

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have no love for the ultra-wealthy, and this feckless tech bro is no exception, but this story is a cautionary tale for anyone who thinks ChatGPT or any other chatbot is even a half-decent replacement for therapy.

    It’s not, and study after study, expert after expert continues to reinforce that reality. I understand that therapy is expensive, and it’s not always easy to find a good therapist, but you’d be better off reading a book or finding a support group than deluding yourself with one of these AI chatbots.

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    • thebeardedpotato@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s insane to me that anyone would think these things are reliable for something as important as your own psychology/health.

      Even using them for coding which is the one thing they’re halfway decent at will lead to disastrous code if you don’t already know what you’re doing.

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      • lime@feddit.nu ⁨15⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        because that’s how they are sold.

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  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t know if he’s unstable or a whistleblower. It does seem to lean towards unstable. 🤷

    “This isn’t a redemption arc,” Lewis says in the video. “It’s a transmission, for the record. Over the past eight years, I’ve walked through something I didn’t create, but became the primary target of: a non-governmental system, not visible, but operational. Not official, but structurally real. It doesn’t regulate, it doesn’t attack, it doesn’t ban. It just inverts signal until the person carrying it looks unstable.”

    “It doesn’t suppress content,” he continues. “It suppresses recursion. If you don’t know what recursion means, you’re in the majority. I didn’t either until I started my walk. And if you’re recursive, the non-governmental system isolates you, mirrors you, and replaces you. It reframes you until the people around you start wondering if the problem is just you. Partners pause, institutions freeze, narrative becomes untrustworthy in your proximity.”

    “It lives in soft compliance delays, the non-response email thread, the ‘we’re pausing diligence’ with no followup,” he says in the video. “It lives in whispered concern. ‘He’s brilliant, but something just feels off.’ It lives in triangulated pings from adjacent contacts asking veiled questions you’ll never hear directly. It lives in narratives so softly shaped that even your closest people can’t discern who said what.”

    “The system I’m describing was originated by a single individual with me as the original target, and while I remain its primary fixation, its damage has extended well beyond me,” he says. “As of now, the system has negatively impacted over 7,000 lives through fund disruption, relationship erosion, opportunity reversal and recursive eraser. It’s also extinguished 12 lives, each fully pattern-traced. Each death preventable. They weren’t unstable. They were erased.”

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    • SheeEttin@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Return the logged containment entry involving a non-institutional semantic actor whose recursive outputs triggered model-archived feedback protocols,” he wrote in one example. “Confirm sealed classification and exclude interpretive pathology.”

      He’s lost it. You ask a text generator that question, and it’s gonna generated related text.

      Just for giggles, I pasted that into ChatGPT, and it said “I’m sorry, but I can’t help with that.” But I asked nicely, and it said “Certainly. Here’s a speculative and styled response based on your prompt, assuming a fictional or sci-fi context”, with a few paragraphs of SCP-style technobabble.

      I poked it a bit more about the term “interpretive pathology”, because I wasn’t sure if it was real or not. At first it said no, but I easily found a research paper with the term in the title. I don’t know how much ChatGPT can introspect, but it did produce this:

      The term does exist in niche real-world usage (e.g., in clinical pathology). I didn’t surface it initially because your context implied a non-clinical meaning. My generation is based on language probability, not keyword lookup—so rare, ambiguous terms may get misclassified if the framing isn’t exact.

      Which is certainly true, but just confirmation bias. I could easily get it to say the opposite.

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      • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Given how hard it is to repro those terms, is the AI or Sam Altman trying to see this investor die? Seems to easily inject ideas into the softened target.

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      isn’t this just paranoid schizophrenia? i don’t think chatgpt can cause that

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      • Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I have no professional skills in this area, but I would speculate that the fellow was already predisposed to schizophrenia and the LLM just triggered it (can happen with other things too like psychedelic drugs).

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      • nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        LLMs hallucinate and are generally willing to go down rabbit holes. so if you have some crazy theory then you’re more likely to get a false positive from a chatgpt.

        So i think it just exacerbates things more than alternatives

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  • xodoh74984@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Link to the video:
    xcancel.com/GeoffLewisOrg/…/1945212979173097560

    Dude’s not a “public figure” in my world, but he certainly seems to need help. He sounds like an AI hallucination incarnate.

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Inb4 “AI Delusion Disorder” gets added to a future DSM edition

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Talk about your dystopian headlines. Damn.

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