Would you considering watching playthroughs of a game the same as playing that game?

Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨darkguyman@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

If you’ve seen my other post on this comm, you probably know why I am asking this. However, even if I did have a PC, I don’t think I would have the time and energy to play a game anyway. That’s why I’m now starting to prefer walkthroughs/playthroughs over actually playing the game myself. I know it’s not a replacement for a PC but it’s still enjoyable regardless. What do you all think?

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MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Absolutely not the same.

The key defining characteristic of a game is interactivity: the ability to affect the outcome in some way. Some games allow for less freedom than others in that respect, but watching someone else play and make those decisions for you is always going to be fundamentally different to playing it yourself.

Not to diminish the value of streams, especially if you find enjoyment in watching them, but you should understand that it’s not a comparable experience.

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- Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Like watching playthroughs of Gow Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2. I don’t have a PlayStation so I couldn’t play them when they first released (they’re on PC now, but expensive), but I was on the hype train so I wanted to see what happened.
  
  Now that I know what happens, I still want to play through them myself so I can make the decisions, like you say.
  
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- darkguyman@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I completely understand that they’re a different experience but if I wanted to somewhat see a game’s story, would a playthrough suffice?
  
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  - mohab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yes. You probably will miss out on branching paths if there's any, but you will miss out on those in a regular playthrough anyway
    
    You also probably should've asked this question instead of the one in the title of the thread—they're two fundamentally different questions.
    
    I know narrative-driven games are dominant nowadays, but not every game is narrative-driven.
    
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tobz619@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
Not the same but is certainly valid as a way to enjoy the game.

I watch loads of Mario Maker 2 stuff but have never touched the game since I don’t have a Switch

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modernangel@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
No. Watching a playthrough is completely passive vs. playing through, interactive. Doing the actual playing through will light up distinct brain regions that passive consumption doesn’t.

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HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah I will totally watch a playthrough over playing sometimes. There are many games and I only have so much time. Many playthroughs the person already had completed the game and then to boot they will edit out going back to save games. Heck back in the day we would hang at arcades and we did not have enough money to constantly play so we would watch each other or strangers play neat games. Someone who is good might regularly get a little crowd around them. And money is another thing along with time. Games cost money. I have not played deaths stranding or the last of us but I know the game.

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xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Hell no. The essential difference between games and movies/television or books as a source of entertainment is that they’re participatory. The player’s choices during interaction affects the exact outcome.

That’s not to say there’s anything wrong with being entertained by others making those choices, but they won’t be yours.

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illi@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Is watching a football game the same as playing a foodball game?

It will be a completely different experience - but as long as you enjoy it… who cares? You do what brings you joy.

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KarlHungus42@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
No.

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Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Its a completely different form of entertainment, way more similar to watching tv.

The main difference is you dont need to plan or think yourself, your mind can take a break just following whats going on. This can be much more restfull and relaxing.

Compare that to activity playing the game and your using much more energy, your brain is calculating every interaction you have to make. It can be stressful at times. A loss can feel like lost time but a win gets you a high you will never get when backseat gaming.

Completely different and up to personal preference on how people like to spend their downtime.

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EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Depends on the game. For very linear narrative heavier games that are glorified visual novels, like SOMA for example, yeah probably.

For most games though no not at all.

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tkohldesac@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Watching a game be played is like listening to someone read you the script of a movie imo.

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swordgeek@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Utterly not.

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orenj@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
No, but also I don’t find the distinction all that critical. Watching an LP of the original NieR and the Drakengard games is an objectively better way to experience those games.

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Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It depends on the game.

If it’s a story based game, absolutely. Cut through the filler and get what you came for.

But something like a rogue-like or Call of Duty, no, you just watched somebody play a game, but didn’t actually get any of the “game experience”.

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MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Is watching someone play the game the same as playing a game myself, absolutely not.

Can I get satisfaction and an understanding of a game I know I never would’ve played otherwise, yes.

I’m not going to put in enough hours to make it through difficult games like dark souls or Hollow Knight. But I’ll put a walkthrough on while I do work or chores so I can experience those games in some way.

I’m all for it, but it scratches a different kind of itch than playing a game does.

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Kruulos@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m going against the grain and say I love watching someone else play the game they’re good at. And I will provoke a bit and say it’s the same as watching someone pro playing football versus playing it yourself.

I cannot play horror games at all but I will consume every and all playthroughs of known good horror games. Then again I would never watch someone play crpg or mmo, the games I’m actually good at.

I just love to see some high level rocket league game play or trackmania or Fortnite or a Elden Ring challenge run versus playing myself those games. I have limited time but want to experience many games and I feel watching them is almost as good as playing them without actually spending thousands of hours getting good.

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Flagstaff@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It’s sometimes better because I myself may not even like the actual gameplay (such as long grinds, which you can skip over in a video if it’s not a theatrical cut to begin with), but otherwise wanna see the story.

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Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It’s not really the same, but it can be enjoyable in its own way. I watch a lot of Let’s Plays, but I tend to do so mostly for games I’ve already played myself, substituting it for a second playthrough. You can watch it mostly in the background - or skip through the filler - and still get another’s perspective on the best bits.

It’s also perfectly valid to watch playthroughs for games you are interested in experiencing but would not enjoy yourself. Very difficult games like Hollow Knight are a common example for this. It will give you an approximation without driving you to frustration - or getting stuck and unable to finish.

It’s never going to be the same though since the interactive element will be missing, and that aspect is the defining feature of games as an artform.

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Gaylactus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
No. If I want a walkthrough I search for some written article. I don’t even understand the point of seeing other ppl playing games, that was always something that confused me.

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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I think that’s more of a “I want information so I can play this game.” and I totally agree. I look for things I can read first, and in some cases, I might want a video if I know what to do, but I’m not sure how and watching someone else would help me accomplish that.
  
  For the games that are more like interactive stories, I completely understand wanting to watch the story without having to sit through all the grinding or wandering around that happens in between key moments.
  
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  - Gaylactus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Well, ofc on some occasions I might watch a video to better understand something specific, but that’s really the last resort, as I prefer to play the game myself. I still don’t understand your argument, because unless you are watching a heavily edited video, you still need to watch all the “grinding”. I also find grinding enjoyable… it falls under the obsessive compulsive in me., so I just rather grind myself! =)
    
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gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
No, you’re losing the only thing that makes video games different from other forms of media. You don’t have to care about that, but it’s definitely taking away a key part of what was meant to be experienced.

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TabbsTheBat@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I mean… I wouldn’t watch a playthrough side by side while playing, but watching a playthrough of a game up to the point I played to after im done playing for the day is a pretty common thing for me :3

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