I’m not from the US, so I’m mega confused… Why are they allowed to take this person after the case was dismissed?
ICE thugs pounced on a man right there in the courthouse, mere minutes after his immigration case was dismissed
Submitted 5 weeks ago by destructdisc@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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MoonRaven@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
AA5B@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Legally they’re not. That’s why they’re masked. That’s why the protests, the complaints, the articles about fascism. The current regime somehow holds themselves above the law, above the Constitution, above human rights. It a combination of a power grab by extremists in the executive branch, collusion from legislature and personal favors in the judicial. Sometimes it really looks like our entire national leadership should be in jail or worse.
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
It’s also as a consequence of states that no longer share the same values. While I’m sure NY has its fair share of assholes working under ICE, how much do you want to bet most of that ICE staff has been brought from places like Texas? They are literally targeting states like NY and LA with military vehicles.
When will the US realize that people no longer hold the same values across state borders and that the only who will win out are the ones who exploit it? This isn’t because of the people but because of control of the media and culture, like how Sinclair has been buying up local news stations selectively.
thedruid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They aren’t.
MoonRaven@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
Then why is security not stopping them but stopping everyone else. Fucking hell.
spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Because about 2/3 of the voting population supports this directly or tacitly.
jnod4@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
The curelty of the majority. What do you do when the democratic process results in let’s say, enslaving a minority, genocide, or mass incarcerations and deportations? Can you go against the will of the population?
AA5B@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
While there are way too many who want this cruelty, I have more hope for humanity than that. I have to believe most are low information voters who’ve been manipulated.
I recently had a discussion with my conservative brother, where it was clear that we don’t even live in the same reality. He’s generally a compassionate person, willing to help anyone, but seems to have really bought the narrative. It’s not that he opposes higher education but clearly Harvard is violently antisemitism and the president needs to do something. It’s not that he opposes equal opportunity, but all those DEI hires are taking jobs from people like him. And yes, those deported are all violent criminals (like in my town where masked SS roughed up a city councillor trying to witness the mistreatment of his constituents)
drislands@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If this is the same thing I’m thinking of, the case was to be allowed to immigrate in the US. It was dismissed, so they were no longer legally in the country.
It’s rancid bullshit that they were instantly detained, of course, not there is a logic to it.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How a normal courthouse arrest would work: Judge asks the court’s deputy to take the person into custody and an officer walks up to the person at the podium and tells them they are going to put cuffs on them, tells them their rights, whatever. You have to go through metal detectors and security to enter a courthouse in the U.S. They clearly do not have a weapon on them or it would have been confiscated upon entry during that process. Some our local courthouse does not even allow you to bring your phone in. (This policy varies as the courthouse in the next down does allow you to). Anyways. This man clearly was not running, or fighting and had no weapon on him. So by all definitions he showed up to court as requested and complied with all requirements and was physically assaulted and taken to the ground for no reason.
We need to start putting these officers on trial for assault/battery charges. Note: if such was done here the victim would legally be allowed to stay in the U.S. and have an expedited citizenship case during the court proceedings.
Aka the law would essentially put those officers in jail and grant citizenship to the man who did what he was asked. The fact that it won’t happen speaks volumes about how the executive branch is not upholding the legislative branches decisions. Therefore all executive branch members letting this occur are should be charged with treason
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
I’m skeptical. There are documented cases where ICE abducts people literally on their way to be sworn in as US citizens and deports them. Despite what they say, they don’t care about people immigrating here legally, it’s all about racism.
kingofras@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
First we created the technology to spread misinformation and hyper tailored propaganda to uneducated people and now that same technology to watch how that propaganda is rotting society to the core.
I can’t even imagine how massive the reset will have to be after this, but every day I can see a bit clearer how things like Atlantis may have happened.
conicalscientist@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I can’t remember where I heard or read this but they pointed out that the technology infrastructure for fascism is already in place.
And it’s a terrifying truth. There are who knows how many agencies each one alone with enough personal information on the population to do serious damage. Unfortunately humans react to things. It’s not until terrible atrocities occur that the population will require change. Until then we get to watch this slow motion derailing freight train. Some us may inevitable be caught in the path of destruction ourselves.
mjhelto@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Gotta cover their faces like a bunch cowards. Fucking pathetic!
justlemmyin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fuckedupistanis must be loving these proud fuckedupistani fascists right now to just stand around and watch all of this happen.
Sort this shit out you dunces!
hector@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
As a European I don’t understand what ICE is. Is it the police ? Or can I run away and not submit to their authority? Are their just some sort of Hitler’s SA squads or more like Gestapo?
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They’re a law enforcement branch focusing on people and arterial entering the country. They should be focusing on human traffic and smuggling, but they’ve been turned into a gestapo.
hector@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
So the whole situation in the US happens because those hogs don’t have any uniform or legal ground to do what they do right ?
tryagain@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Hello, this is POTUS, gimme a large Distraction with extra Outrage. Last week’s bill didn’t go down well, so let’s fuck with some brown people in LA and NY.
Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This has been comming since 2002/2003 DHS was a huge fucking mistake, and should have been shut down ages ago.
rothaine@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Is there an article for this?
SaltyLemon66@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
decapitate ICE agents
mrmule@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
And you just stand there and film this? Americans now are some weird kind of fucked up.
callouscomic@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Only now?
ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
That’s was a perfect time to kick the nazis in the teeth. Use a camera is you have to.
LonstedBrowryBased@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Look at these retarded wannabe cops falling all over the place
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Holy shit. Goon squads. They don’t even identify themselves??
Imagine a hypothetical scenario where a group of random citizens gang up on an ICE agent during their Sunday stroll and handcuff them, and throw them off a bridge somewhere, handcuffs still on.
How would a sheriff know that they aren’t ICE agents themselves? Or are we going by skin colour?
destructdisc@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Considering ICE recently detained a US Marshal “by mistake”, I think that’s right on the money
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
He “fit the general description of a subject being sought by ICE”. Clearly, they saw someone with brown skin and went from there. This clearly demonstrates the inconvenience and hatred of people directing and working for ICE.
thedruid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They don’t ID themselves and show a warrant? Fight back. Fuck it. Nothing to lose now. Never go with feds quietly.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 weeks ago
Except your freedom, job or life.
OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
People should try that, for science. In Minecraft.
postcapitalism@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
We need to stop respecting their authority or it will never stop. The thing is people obey when they say “stay back” or we’re going to arrest you” - then these mere men / cowards get the power trip they enjoy.
Fuck Ice.
We need to fight them as having no authority when they operate against the constitution / judges orders.