Germany Is Using AI to Erase Pro-Palestinian Speech

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• unskilled5117@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is a clickbait headline. The headline implies that the German State is using AI to censor. It is not! While there might be a lot to criticize the German State/Goverment for, this is not it.

  It is a different actor developing a model, not the state. One can criticize that, but that is definitely protected under scientific freedom.

  […] the Decoding Antisemitismproject at the Center for Research on Antisemitism at the Technical University Berlin […]. With the help of a large language computing model, the project aims to create “an [AI] algorithm that will automatically recognize antisemitic statements in web comments . . . so that antisemitic posts can be removed more efficiently and accurately” by online platforms.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Depriving the internet of an opportunity for good old German bashing. How sinister of you. /s

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  • chobeat@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The word “state” doesn’t appear a single time in reference to Germany in the whole article. Germany, despite their pervasive state-oriented mentality, is not just its state. It’s the society, the people and other institutions.

    Also TU is a public university, so it’s still an emanation of the state, state-funded and state-controlled.

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    • PapstJL4U@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why do you want to be evem more wrong? Neither the state nor the collective of German people do want the headline implies. It’s a group of people doing it under the <freedom> of science concept. People are to US-triggered and believe every state does day2day politics like Trump.

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    • unskilled5117@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh come on, just accept that the wording is wrong and intentionally misleading.

      If a Country is named in the headline like this, it is always implied to be the state/government.

      Even if we consider that not to be the case, just for the sake of the argument, you still can not say “a few people at this project” = “Germany (Society)”. I heavily caution you to not go down the generalization route of “a select group” = “german society”. You ought to think about what that assertion would mean in the context of hamas and palastinians.

      Also TU is a public university, so it’s still an emanation of the state, state-funded and state-controlled.

      While universities get funding from the state, they are mostly free to research what they choose. On the projects website is also no sign of direct funding by the state. You are free to criticize the research, but what you are implying is that the state should censor the direction of research because you don‘t like it, which is quite ironic.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mentioning a country by the name implies it’s the government doing it.
      Else you need to name the individual/organization that does it.

      How would you feel if I said “[Insert OP’s first name] murders childrens and fucks their bodies” while being in your hometown?
      Same energy.

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    • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I thought it was the state from the headline too. maybe because of German’s state past behaviour on the topic and high likelihood of it doing such a thing sort of naturally completed the narrative in my head

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So an israli think tank is using US tax dollars funding a project at a Berlin University that identifies antisemitism with no accountability?

    Yeah that’s all above board.

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  • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Go back to feddit.org nobody want to hear your pretense of caring about palestinians

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    • Obelix@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, let’s insult other users based on their instance. That is really helpful, will bring peace to the middle east and make the fediverse the dominant social media network in the world.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    jacobin.com is not a reliable source

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• Octagon9561@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nazi Germany turned itself into Zionazi Germany, how original

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• FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nice. Real fucking nice.

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  • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This headline reads like 2025 news Mad-Libs:

    “<Proper noun> is using <Latest fad> to <Verb> <Ideological alignment adjective> <Conceptual noun>”

    Try it:

    “OpenAI is using Hydroflasks to destroy Catholic exceptionalism”

    “Mark Cuban is using cryptocurrency to monetize white supremacist hope”

    Good times./s

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    • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Append a “Here’s how” on those suckers and suddenly you’re back in the 2020s

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• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m pretty sure this article is one big lie,

  the school soon faced political pressure from Israeli ambassador Ron Prosor

  This sounds like complete bullshit, the Israeli ambassador has zero power over a school, and outside interference would be regarded as intolerable.

  and Berlin’s conservative mayor Kai Wegner, who demanded that its leadership “cancel the event

  This does not sound right at all, this would be a major attack on freedom of speech, which is protected in Germany not only by German law but also by EU requirement to observe human rights.

  The university then did call off the talk, vaguely citing “security concerns.”

  There is no way a school would just give in to such pressure. If true this would be a huge scandal in Germany.

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  • chobeat@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You might have missed a lot of news about Germany. They passed a new law that suspends freedom of speech when it’s against Israel. www.dw.com/en/…/a-70715643

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You might have missed in your study of law and the news that what passed is not a law, but merely a resolution. It’s the equivalent of a press release.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I admit that is very bad, but I doubt you can’t criticize Israels war crimes and oppression and illegal settlements in Gaza.

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    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Israel lost the PR war. They need to accept this and just move the fuck on rather than continuing to dig in their heels. Defending genocide and trying to suppress opposition is a really bad look.

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• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well, I for one did nazi that coming…

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• Alistaire@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Kind of good, it’s just bots spamming same shit everywhere, and asking for donations who knows for what

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• Mrkawfee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fuck Germany.

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  • KumaSudosa@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just to be clear though, it’s not a state programme. But fuck Germany’s stance on Israel for sure…

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• vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You said in a previous comment that at lease israel has a reason to start the war which is not true colonizers has no right to “self defense”

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• Yareckt@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Following the headlines logic: Germany is angry at this post right now for overgeneraling them in a topic where there are a lot of fake news and and propaganda spreading actors already. Germany will now go and make itself tea.

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• Ilixtze@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  germ-mans being germ-man =C

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  • liang@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    lol, good one

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